New Marquez Training Pics ALSO PAC PHOTO

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  1. Smokin' Joe

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    I know that. My point was, if he can do, then there should be plenty of other guys out there that can do it and guys like Berto, Peterson and all the rest shouldn't be getting caught. You see what I'm getting at?
     
  2. SRCP

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    His body is similar yet with added muscle mass and no bloat. That'd be kind of proving their point imo. No I've never accused Marquez of doing PEDs.

    Look at Marquez's neck at 147, it's huge in comparison, all muscle.
     
  3. JoeCamelTow

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    Oh, so you weren't one of those who bought into the "new-improved" Pac Monster thing.:lol:
     
  4. Smokin' Joe

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    To be honest I don't believe JMM for a second when he says he's going to go toe to toe with Pacquiao. He's an intelligent fighter. He know's he doesn't have the speed or power to get into an all out war with him and come out on top. He'll use his timing and counter punching again, using Pacquiao's own momentum and aggression against him. It'll most likely go the 12 rounds again.
     
  5. dangerousity

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    lol, such bs. Pac is a powerful puncher because he's pac, nothing to dow ith pinoy power.

    God Pinoy's are so patriotic when it comes to **** that actually dont matter. Pride in their athletes, singing the national anthem in the bloody cinema, pinoy pride bla bla, miss universe. However when it comes down to it, Pinoys are one of the most self hating races/nationality out there... A country that worship the white, essentially admitting inferiority.
     
  6. chimba

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    Absolutely not. Pacs been going downhill since the Cotto fight from the beating he took.
     
  7. Slothrop

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  8. chimba

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    :lol: Ive actually had some different experiences. Someone argued with me that Filipino pastries and desserts were better than the French. They also argue that their schools there are better. So you are 50% correct.
     
  9. dangerousity

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    And they may be on drugs too? However they dont have an S&C coach who tried to hide his name, brag about undetectable drugs, convicted drug dealer, Balco parter and obviously one of the leading experts in the field of PED's. If such a guy was in any fighters corner, ANY fighter, they would be suspect too.

    If I found out today that Ariza's name is actually Hernando and was convicted for supplying PED's to top athletes and he then goes to brag about how its so easy to beat the system, and he's never worked with a boxer before(so we know they hired him not for boxing conditioning knowledge), then I would be 10000% certain Pac is on PED's. Or any fighter for that matter.

    You can make a case for Conte's fighters but like I said, at least Conte didn't try to hide his identity and is one of the biggest advocates for clean testing at the moment as all eyes on him. His fighters also havent moved up like JMM and Pac has and performed extremely well.
     
  10. shaunster101

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    When you're undergoing standard state commission drug testing you don't need undetectable drugs because the test is more or less worthless. That undetectable stuff is for the athletes who are subject to frequent drug testing whilst training.

    PEDS like testosterone and growth hormone are used whilst training to aid recovery, provide energy and build and repair muscles. As long as you're not an idiot then these things are not going to show up in a post fight drug test as they'll be long gone from your system by then.

    Peterson got caught because he was going through random drug testing with VADA which detected the presence of artificial testosterone in his system. He had testosterone producing pellets put in his arse that would boost his natural testosterone levels allowing him to train harder for longer and recover quicker. This would never, ever have been picked up with the standard testing that is in place for most fights.

    Berto is a weird one, and one I actually believe may have been contamination as he was caught with trace amounts of nandrolone, which is the most old school drug and stays in your system for aaaaages. There would be no point at all in trying to dope with this these days.

    The point is that the standard commission tests are only going to catch idiots who **** up their cycle, people taking things like diuretics to help make weight and or those using recreational drugs. They're not going to catch someone who knows what they're doing who is using steroids, growth hormone and epo to boost their performance. Fighters basically have free reign to take what they want.
     
  11. dangerousity

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    Admitting someone's food is better is insignificant when you consider that Philippines is a nation of Michael Jackson's. And i'm not talking about talent. I think chinese food is the best, I'm not chinese. Pride in yourself is what counts, Filipino's dont have it, they just scream about it.
     
  12. chimba

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    Im not getting it. I dont know what you mean by Pride? I know for a fact that they threw out the whites 15 years ago.
     
  13. Jim

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    Conte did jail time and is a major presence/figure on the American scene. Memo ****ed off, snitched, changed his name, and fled back to Mexico. Oh, and Memo operates outside of the US in a basement in Mexico.
     
  14. dangerousity

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    You been or live in the Philippines?

    *And yea I know this is off topic. Just winds me up when filipino's shout about pride, yet demonstrates the complete opposite in their day to day lives.
     
  15. Jim

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    :deal