What does Ward need to do to become an ATG?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VG_Addict, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,487
    Likes Received:
    6
    Pavlik is a name and he's undefeated at the weight. Whether or not it's a decent fight remains to be seen.
     
  2. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    5
    Haha well done

    :lol::lol::lol:

    sorry you're so offended from sarcastic comment
     
  3. MarioBrothers

    MarioBrothers Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Messages:
    2,375
    Likes Received:
    0
    There are 2 fighters out of the current top 10 p4p I strongly feel could break the top 100 ATG, if not they're already there. I don't have a 100 list but ward and donaire I really feel could crack the prestigious list of ATGs
     
  4. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    5
    Are mayweather and pacquiao not still in the p4p top 10?

    :huh:huh:huh
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    42,104
    Likes Received:
    11,471
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2012
    Messages:
    63,396
    Likes Received:
    26,942
     
  7. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    5
     
  8. MarioBrothers

    MarioBrothers Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Messages:
    2,375
    Likes Received:
    0
    let me rephrase that and add new generation of fighters:D, marquez is also a certified ATG but all three of them are products of the last decade and are all on the way out
     
  9. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2009
    Messages:
    4,822
    Likes Received:
    4
    Keep on fighting
     
  10. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    5
     
  11. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    5
    Okay fair enough then
     
  12. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,846
    Likes Received:
    12


    Nonsense, I don't see any agenda in his posts. It is you who appears to be trolling, not moneypaysbills who everyone on here has always found to be a reasonable and intelligent poster.



    I don't think there's any rush to go up to 175 for Ward, and I don't think he's keen on it either. He had a great opportunity to become the legit SMW and LHW champion at the same time, only Joe Calzaghe has ever achieved this, but he took the easy way out and forced Dawson down to 168. Cleverly-Ward could be a great fight at 175 down the line, but Cleverly is unbeaten and has a horrible style for Ward, I'm not sure he'd fancy that fight.




    Took Mayweather years and a fight with Oscar to become a star, I'm not sure Ward will have that opportunity. If he starts knocking guys out though he'll become massive - Clev-Ward would be a great fight



    If Saeurland wins the purse bid, and Ward has to travel to Denmark, I think he'll vacate.




    I don't see Ward becoming a PPV fighter anytime soon, he doesn't bring excitement. He's solid, but he doesn't put on great fights like Pacquiao, he doesn't have a persona out of the ring like Mayweather. He doesn't have to travel to win a title or earn recognition, but he does if he wants to make serious money




    I really hope Kell can pull it off and beat Devon in January. Brook-Khan next summer would be a huge event


    [quote[That's right, but my stance on Floyd is, I don't think he'd travel anywhere whatever the circumstances were. Unless he'd have had to earlier on in his career.[/quote]


    I agree, but Floyd has luckily never been in a position where he's needed to travel, as is the nature of the division's he's fought in.

    You too mate
     
  13. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2011
    Messages:
    5,441
    Likes Received:
    2
    lol heard those excuses before got nothing to do with divisions, Hopkins pulled out of fighting Calzaghe in 2002 after signing that is the point( and yes Holdy boy i know exactly what your gonna say after you have read this but to me thats a glib excuse) Taylor backed out too Echols did aswell.

    Jones didnt seem to have a prob going to down under to fight Green now did he???
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    76,131
    Likes Received:
    2,773
    Sure, it's the entire division's fault Calzaghe held a vacant paper title for 9 years before the likes of Lacy and Kessler decided to win belts and make the flight. :lol:

    You're comparing a shot to **** RJJ's money first flights to Australia and Russia to fight Green and Lebedev to Calzaghe's self-proclaimed legendary approach against an ancient Hopkins and RJJ? At least with that statement you indirectly hint you're trolling a drunk Brit.
     
  15. silly_illy

    silly_illy Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2008
    Messages:
    6,728
    Likes Received:
    2
    beat Froch in uk