What does Ward need to do to become an ATG?

Pavlik is a name and he's undefeated at the weight. Whether or not it's a decent fight remains to be seen.

 

Haha well done



sorry you're so offended from sarcastic comment

 

There are 2 fighters out of the current top 10 p4p I strongly feel could break the top 100 ATG, if not they're already there. I don't have a 100 list but ward and donaire I really feel could crack the prestigious list of ATGs

 

Are mayweather and pacquiao not still in the p4p top 10?

:huh:huh:huh

 

let me rephrase that and add new generation of fighters, marquez is also a certified ATG but all three of them are products of the last decade and are all on the way out

 

Keep on fighting

 

Okay fair enough then

 

Nonsense, I don't see any agenda in his posts. It is you who appears to be trolling, not moneypaysbills who everyone on here has always found to be a reasonable and intelligent poster.

I don't think there's any rush to go up to 175 for Ward, and I don't think he's keen on it either. He had a great opportunity to become the legit SMW and LHW champion at the same time, only Joe Calzaghe has ever achieved this, but he took the easy way out and forced Dawson down to 168. Cleverly-Ward could be a great fight at 175 down the line, but Cleverly is unbeaten and has a horrible style for Ward, I'm not sure he'd fancy that fight.

Took Mayweather years and a fight with Oscar to become a star, I'm not sure Ward will have that opportunity. If he starts knocking guys out though he'll become massive - Clev-Ward would be a great fight

If Saeurland wins the purse bid, and Ward has to travel to Denmark, I think he'll vacate.

I don't see Ward becoming a PPV fighter anytime soon, he doesn't bring excitement. He's solid, but he doesn't put on great fights like Pacquiao, he doesn't have a persona out of the ring like Mayweather. He doesn't have to travel to win a title or earn recognition, but he does if he wants to make serious money

I really hope Kell can pull it off and beat Devon in January. Brook-Khan next summer would be a huge event


[quote[That's right, but my stance on Floyd is, I don't think he'd travel anywhere whatever the circumstances were. Unless he'd have had to earlier on in his career.[/quote]


I agree, but Floyd has luckily never been in a position where he's needed to travel, as is the nature of the division's he's fought in.

You too mate

 

lol heard those excuses before got nothing to do with divisions, Hopkins pulled out of fighting Calzaghe in 2002 after signing that is the point( and yes Holdy boy i know exactly what your gonna say after you have read this but to me thats a glib excuse) Taylor backed out too Echols did aswell.

Jones didnt seem to have a prob going to down under to fight Green now did he???

 

Sure, it's the entire division's fault Calzaghe held a vacant paper title for 9 years before the likes of Lacy and Kessler decided to win belts and make the flight.

You're comparing a shot to **** RJJ's money first flights to Australia and Russia to fight Green and Lebedev to Calzaghe's self-proclaimed legendary approach against an ancient Hopkins and RJJ? At least with that statement you indirectly hint you're trolling a drunk Brit.

 

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