George Foreman vs. Vitali Klitschko

Again I say so what? The guy was stopped once in 81 fights and for reasons that had nothing to do with his ability to take a punch to the face. How many fighters can you name who were never rocked in an entire career? Just to give you a heads up, the Klitschko brothers would not be making any such list.

Vitali definately has the power to hurt or KO anyone in history. I'll agree, just as long as you admit that the same could happen in reverse.

This was not a prime Lewis who busted up Klitschko, and a past prime Sanders had him rocked pretty good as well. For as many arguments that you construct using the platform " well, if that guy did it ", an equal retort can be made in reverse. You know me well enough by now, that I'm not going to let someone get away with that approach so easily.

 

Er, if Cooney was Foreman's "brother" in power, what's the shame in him stunning Foreman a bit?

Someone who whacks as hard as you SHOULD be able to do that.

 

The Cooney Foreman beat is as good as anyone on Vitali's win list

 

Foreman throws 100 POWERPUNCHES a round at times. Foreman's punches are very compact at times giving better speed and he is naturally more athletic/stronger

 

Not really, but I still agree that Foreman beat better fighters. Cooney just isn't one of them.

 

I used Cooney for a comparison of a 6'7 fighter and Cooney was still a banger when they fought as he landed big shots on George. I'm not using it as a great win but a demonstartion of Foreman not having too many problems with a 6'7 boxer puncher

Cooney was probably in better shape than a 37yo Sanders was against Vitali.

 

1. BEcause Cooney was a bigger 1punch puncher than Vitali
2. This is a past prime old Foreman were talking about
3. Anyone can be stunned with 1 punch Vitali included
4. Vitali was stunned by single punches from lesses punchers than Foreman in Sanders and Lewis.

So lets turn the question round. If Vitali is stunned from a single shot by Sanders/Lewis how would he make it through a fight against a bigger puncher who throws more punches?

 

Foreman by KO somewhere between rds. 5-7.

 

I don't think that any argument you try and make, is going to change the other poster's mind. He's gone as far as to use examples like the Ken Lakusta fight to make a case for Foreman's chin being questionable, and doing so for the sole purpose of justifying Vitali's chances of knocking him out. Sure, I think Klitschko had enough power to knock out any fighter in history, but that does not necessarily mean that he would. Using a few isolated incidents in Foreman's 81 pro fight career, while ignoring similar examples in Vitali's 37 bouts, is a little off balance in my opinion. Let's face it, we could all single out little examples in any fighter's career to make an argument for another champion beating him. That doesn't necessarily make it a reality.

 

I seriously doubt that. The Cooney fight was a "safe" fight against a name opponent. Sure, Cooney was big and strong, but he was also highly inactive and never the most durable of fighters.

 

I'm not so sure that Lewis was past his prime against Vitali. Lewis had been looking pretty good and fighting as good or better than he ever had up to and including the Tyson fight. He might have been undertrained or underprepared though.

As far as Vitali Klitschko against Sanders; I don't think Sanders ever really hurt him or rocked him badly. He tagged him a few times and had Vitali backing up, but I think it was more a case of Vitali avoiding any follow-up punches than it was a case of him being truly hurt.

 

That was comical seeing Big George flounder around like a fish out of water after taking Lakusta's right hand. Although, I don't think Foreman was really hurt, just surprised!

 

You are crazy.

 

Once again, over rated and questionable are two different things. I think Foreman's chin was good, but not great. I went into detail as to why based on the chins are best tested when they are hit. This is the best way to review things in context and by example.

Foreman was down by at least three different fighters. No man has ever floored Vitali. Furthermore, Vitlai was never badly dazed vs journeymen as Foreman was.

In almost all cases the better boxer, with the better chin and better stamina wins at heavyweight.

 

I think differences in comp quality could explain a great deal of this, but I'm not going to go through the rather tedious and redundant task of comparing men like Muhammad Ali, Jimmy Young, and Ron Lyle to guys like Corrie Sanders, Chris Byrd or an old Lewis.

Enough's enough already....