New Marquez Training Pics ALSO PAC PHOTO

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    A fighter who refuses to test is not guilty of PED use!

    A fighter who is trained or advised by a former distributor of PED's who now say they're doing it legit through training methods and supplements and would test anytime is guilty of PED use!

    So is ******* logic! :yep

    Write to Manny *******s! Tell him to force PED tests before its to late and Marquez KHTFO! :bbb

    Its so funny watching these *******s post scared! :lol:
     
  2. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Peds on no peds.
    Urine or no urine.

    Marqueer is winning again, guaranteed.

    4th time in the row baby.
     
  3. Jim

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    See, this is why you're a ****ing dumb ass. Pac never refused to test, he negotiated a window for what was CLEARLY psychological warfare by Floyd. Once again for that tiny little clit you call a brain: Pac never refused to test.

    And answer me this...

    Why did Team Marquez blatantly LIE and say that they had NO IDEA who Memo was nor were they aware of his PAST. III was the most important fight of Juanita's career and you think they'd pick up a random ass S&C and not even know what the **** his history is all about?

    Marquez said he's been training for 6 months. A month and a half ago, he stopped roiding, despite Memo's claim that he can create a **** ton of undetectable PEDS, but let's just be safe. It's hilarious to see JMM fans so desperate for their man to get a W that they condone Marquez hiring an ex-Balco guy who operates in ungoverned Mexico.

    :hi:
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    JMM fans desperate? :lol::lol::lol:
    I'm certainly not saying Marquez is or is'nt on PED's.
    There is'nt a fighter out there I'd be shocked if tested positive for PED's.
    I've been saying this since before Pacquiao refused PED testing. :deal

    A fighter rejecting testing is suspicious, one with the excuses lined out by Pacquiao for not testing is laughable.

    My understanding is that Marquez hooked up with Heredia and knew about him because Heredia was training other Latino athletes.
    Whether Marquez knew or did'nt know of Heredia's past none of us really know. He may have. Who cares?
    Donaire and Ward knew of Victor Conte's past and still hired him, who here is making a big stink about that?

    *******s unite and stink up this joint by pointing the finger at Donaire as a PED user! :yep
     
  5. Jim

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    Conte served time, was convicted, and is by FAR the much more well known public figure (we'll say it's like Mike Tyson versus Roman Gonzales). Why do you think Angel was able to fly under the radar until Conte exposed him? Conte lives in America, and now does consultation work. He's in the thick of the PED debate, always available for an opinion. Too much of the spot light on him to be stupid. None on Angel, because Angel works and operates out of a dank basement in Mexico, probably below the Romanza gym. Or the guest room at Marquez's mansion.

    :deal
     
  6. Skullrip

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    divac must be stupid. Pac never refused drug tests.
     
  7. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think if they say it enough....they end up believing the lie is true. Pac had always agreed to random testing....he just balked at the hard line blood testing stipulation that Floyd and USADA came up with that PAC had a hard time agreeing to given his aversion to having blood taken from him. Divac is actually pretty intelligent from what I can tell....but he's a hard core JMM fanatic and has a real hard on for PAC. He's even a honorary ***** if PAC is part of the discussion. He's very committed to JMM.
     
  8. sugarkills

    sugarkills Active Member Full Member

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    **** it if they use drugs so be it.....as long as they fight, unlike Floyd
     
  9. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he had agreed to it then why say "I'm scared of needles" ...that sounds ****ing stupid to me coming from a athlete that fights champions for a living & has multiple tattoos . The excuse "giving into Floyd's demands" complete ******* logic... jmm already said "****, blood , **** or whatever they Want when they want it.....so please *******s if not even PAC & his team are using that as a excuse for the ass kicking jmm gave PAC in the 3rd fight
     
  10. Spitfire7

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    ****, that pic. :shock: Was JMM hit by a train or something?
     
  11. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PAC never said he was scared of needles. It's stupid that anyone would actually believe that bull**** when PAC has a new tattoo every other fight.

    PAC agreed to be randomly tested from jump....But for whatever reason Floyd had USADA stipulate that blood tests could be administered right up to the day of the fight which is odd....that's not even a practice that WADA mandates...or any other drug testing organization for that matter.

    The real question is "WHY"...why would Floyd make blood testing such a HUGE requirement when URINE testing is by far the most effective, efficent and logical method of drug testing? PAC agreed to be blood tested immediately after the fight which makes the most sense and is what PAC agreed to.

    And don't be silly....JMM dished out but also received an ass whoopin' in all 3 fights thus far with PAC....the 4th might be a completely one sided domination by either man....but most likely it will be close and competitive like all the rest.
     
  12. davebenoit

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    abs-cbnNEWS.com
    Posted at 11/02/2011 2:33 PM | Updated as of 11/02/2011 3:17 PM


    MANILA, Philippines - The new strength and conditioning coach of world lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez has been involved in performance enhancing drugs and steroids issues in the past, according to a report from RingTV.com.

    Angel Hernandez, a graduate of Texas A&M University, was hired by Marquez to help him prepare for his upcoming bout with Filipino boxing champion Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao.
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    Hernandez was introduced in the second episode of HBO's 24/7: Pacquiao vs Marquez reality series, wherein Hernandez said he is putting the boxer through a new training regimen to help him retain speed as he gains size.

    According to RingTV, Angel Hernandez is formerly known as Angel Heredia, a Mexican steroid dealer who supplied former track stars Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery with illegal substances.

    Heredia admitted to mailing Jones, a former Olympian, the blood-booster EPO, growth hormone and insulin in the year 2000, at the request of Jones' then head-coach, Trevor Graham.

    Heredia also admitted to selling banned substances to other Olympians, including gold medalists Antonio Pettigrew, Jerome Young and Dennis Mitchell, according to a BBC report.

    Donaire nutritionist

    Victor Conte, the nutritionist to world bantamweight champion Nonito "The Filipino Flash" Donaire, was among the first to share his knowledge of Heredia's past, informing his Twitter followers that Heredia was a steroid dealer.

    "JM Marquez is working w/ admitted steroid dealer Angel 'Memo' Heredia. Heredia testified he supplied PEDs to Mariona Jones," Conte tweeted. "Angel Heredia was the star witness for the... government against many athletes. He got no time in return."

    Conte himself is controversial, having served prison time for distributing steroids. He was the founder of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO), which marketed an anabolic steroid known as tetrahydrogestrinone (THG).

    Working with Marquez

    Hernandez has changed some aspects of Marquez' training program, and is putting the boxer through state-of-the-art techniques that will help Marquez gain the needed weight without sacrificing his speed.

    It was also Hernandez who advised Marquez to stop his unique training regimen of drinking his own urine.

    "On the advise of my doctor and my physical trainer Angel (Hernandez), they told us we should stop," Marquez said.

    "You cannot be doing something you did 15 years ago when really, science has advanced, bio-mechanics has advanced, new studies and research has advanced," Hernandez said in the second episode of 24/7.

    Although Hernandez admitted that Marquez is not as fast as Pacquiao, he guaranteed that the Mexican boxer will "definitely" be too strong for the Filipino.

    According to RingTV, Top Rank chief executive officer Bob Arum "only recently" discovered Heredia's past and was not involved in his hiring.
     
  13. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    When you're n PED's, its easier to get swelling. That's a fact. But JMM is still going kick his ass this time. Dude looks like a ****ing tank.
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    against floyd

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    now...damn.
     
  15. Smokin' Joe

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    Throwing rocks and drinking **** VS a scientific modern training camp.

    Alex Ariza pointed that out.