Larry Holmes vs. Wladimir Klitschko.

His opponents readily and repeatedly take Wlad's jab and keep coming forward,They must have a lot of respect for his jab? PLEASE now you've just said the people who say Wlad's jab is a power punch are the same level of fighter Holmes is.

He controlled the pace by stepping back as soon as Haye feinted,That's not controlling because Haye kept flying at him all he did was fight Wlad's fight soon as Wlad's missed the jab,straight right,left hook in round2 Haye was beside him and could have really punished him but for some reason ran like a little girl the whole night not only that Wlad was off balance several times he missed Haye and yet again Haye ran.

Wladimir fitness reigns supreme and I would assume when you see him in real life he is a very intimating man but Holmes was a vicious s.o.b.

 

Interesting comparing there resumes


Holmes:

Tim Witherspoon- Undefeated, future WBC, WBA Heavyweight Champion

Earnie Shavers- Top 5 rated contender by Ring Magazine

Ken Norton- WBC Heavyweight Champion

Mike Weaver- Future WBA Heavyweight Champion

Trevor Berbick- Future WBC Heavyweight Champion

Bonecrusher Smith- Future WBA Heavyweight Champion

Ray Mercer- Undefeated WBO Heavyweight Champion



Wlad:

David Haye- WBA Heavyweight Champion

Ruslan Chagaev- Undefeated, WBA Heavyweight Champion

Chris Byrd- IBF Heavyweight Champion

Sam Peter- Future WBC Heavyweight Champion

Sultan Ibragimov- WBO Heavyweight Champion

Eddie Chambers- Top 5 rated by Ring Magazine

Both cleaned out there eras pretty emphatically, and beat a lot of current/future world champions

 

ATG Heavyweight? About 90% of the fighters he faced as champion are discouraged by the end of RD1,They're not their to win they're their to get some money aka BUMS

 

In terms of an era context both did clean out but Larry missed on some crucial big fights. Wlad has a stronger championship claim than Larry did imo.

Spoon and Williams both gave Larry trouble with their jab.

However cooneys height never seemed to bother him.

Larry does have a better jab and a better inside game.

Still favour Holmes slightly but not by much. I do think wlad will go down as the greater heavyweight however.

 

To say the least !

 

Whattt fkn cr4p.
Do you wipe your mouth after you're typed this?
Norton went the distance with Holmes,Ali and beat Ali both jabbers,His style was effective vs Jabbers. Constantly moving he would destroy DESTROY Wlad in the later rounds.
Wladimir has not faced a fighter with Norton workrate while Norton has. He would KO Wladimir.


You say he showed great footwork by avoding all of David Haye's punches? You mean the punches where he lifted out 5M away from Wladimir to avoid the jab? Ya good one.


These great fighters you have mentioned,They're so good they decided to fight Wlad from the outside? Fight Wlad how he wants to be fought? Yea they deserve recognition..NOT

I said whatever for Chagev because I misspelt his name but I believe it was Sultan who blocked Wlads jab.

What I said was name a opponent who could show some speed,feints,offensive,defensive ability at a heavyweight championship level workrate of the past that Wladimir has fought because I can't.

 

I knew it, Ali may not but Holmes can. They may not hit as hard but look at the work rate in the later rounds Wlad can't keep up and not only that God made the heaven,earth and the rest was made in China like Wladimirs chin.

Just because Wlad has "One punch KO power" Doesn't mean jack,He wouldn't be able to land on Norton with full force even if he did.

Wlad's punching power would not bother him because Wlad wouldn't be able to hit him with everything,Wlad leads with his jab keeps his hands high until the mid round where they're dropped completely or even worse when he puts his left out in front wayyy to left where he's baiting and the fighters do nothing...

It's true Wladimir has not faced a fighter with awesome work rate we have seen in the past.

Footwork is able to be in any situation and get out,move in,stick,out,move the feet fast,sidestepping if they rush,If you rush Wlad he clinches,,Also his great footwork he was off balance several times he missed Haye and like I said earlier in RD2 when he missed the jab,right,hook and Haye ducked and ran away he could have really punished Wlad.Don't mistake reflects for Footwork.

They could have gotten Wlad in the later rounds but had no clue has to how,I'm pretty sure those fighters don't even watch film.

Where did i say possesed ALL of these attributes I said posses some at a HW Championship level we have seen in the past because I can't.All I see is plodders, But the HWs who possesed speed,feints,offensive,defensive ability

Joe Louis
Muhammed Ali
Ezzard Charles
Young Mike Tyson
Tommy Loughran

 

Wlad shits all over Norton.

Intact wlads only criticism is he got sparked in his prime.

Norton suffered an embarassing early loss in much worse fashion. He also got wiped by every power puncher he faced. No doubt sanders and Brewster would do him also.

Wlad is clear levels above Norton. He wouldn't struggle with shot Ali nor with jimmy young. He'd probably be able to fend off the green Larry Holmes for a couple of years also.

In a fight wlad stops Norton and early.

 

Larry is the far greater boxer......not close. Holmes boxes his ears off before knocking him out.

 

Ali was FAAAAAR from shot when Norton defeated him. He had two of his best three wins ahead of him.


And Jimmy Young's win over Foreman was a better scalp than any Wlad has managed so far.

 

I was referring to the third fight.

Wlad wouldn't struggle with young, do you disagree?

 

It's very close. A have both in the lower reaches of my top 10.

Wlad will likely continue his current dominance for a year or two cementing a top 5 spot on my list.

 

Why do people say Larry is the "more skilled" fighter?

I think the ultimate test to prove boxing skill is winning the Olympics. Fighters very rarely win on KOs, so you have to showcase your boxing ability.

Wladimir has demonstrated his elite pugilism at the highest of levels.

 

I think Wlad can take Larry's punches.

I don't think Larry can take Wlad's punches.