Dawson and Pavlik have actual accomplishments. A linear middleweight Champion and the best LHW in the world have nothing to ever apologize for. Some of the Euro bums you prop up wouldn't need to apologize either if they would drop their garbage can "titles" from their waist and fight the best fighter in their division to become a Champion.
Calzaghe wasn't ****. I would still take Pavlik over him. Calzaghe spent a decade fighting bums like Pudwell and Manfedo and avoided fighters like Pavlik, Froch, and Dawson so we will never really know.
and here it is :deal Perfect illustrated example of 90% of the hate on Pavlik It was always the other way around.....other than a small window in time where it looked like the fight could happen, Pavlik fans could give a **** about Calzaghe. the Calzombies however, :-!:. I wish I had a screen shot of the front page of the General Forum when I hurried in to talk about the MW Championship fight between Pavlik and Taylor. Top to bottom, no bull ****, was nothing but threads reading: "Oh yeah, well Calzaghe AND (it was obviously real important to capitalize the AND :conf) Kessler would beat both of them" etc It was to the point where instead of talking about the fight, threads had to be started saying "Pavlik and Taylor are MW's" I have given up on trying to understand it
Simple as that: If Ward beats him - Pavlik is better than ever.......:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb. If Kessler, Froch, or Bute beats him - Pavlik is done....:huh:blood:-(
I used to like Pavlik,until he bitched out and made excuse's after Nard schooled and embarrassed him. His fans keep telling us he's a great fighter,but imo he was just able to dry down to 160 and bully smaller fighters.He hasn't beaten anybody relevant at 168,and he only has one name on his resume at 160 (Taylor) and it came to light afterwards that Taylor was killing himself to make 160. He's been injured ? inactive for most of the last few years,yet he manages to get a shot against the main man at 168. Total mismatch imo,Ward will play with him,and his corner will save him from a beating during the middle rounds.
Yep, day after Pavlik wins the MW title Cafaggy calls him out and the **** storm begins. Pavlik was always ducking the SMWs. But, we see who turned that fight down in the end. No debating it. Facts are facts. Calfaggy called Pavlik out and then turned down the fight after his old man saw first hand what Pavlik did to stablemate Lockett. Of course that made it worse as the Calfaggy supporters had to kick it into another gear to defend their 'boy'.
That was an absolute boxing clinic....A fight that you can use as a "HOW TO" for young AM boxers.:bbb
Besides Taylor, who else has Pavlik beaten in his entire carreer ? I'm gonna tell you. Nobody. He holds 2 miserables wins againts pillow handed Taylor and his fanboys capitalized on that **** to hype the hell out of him for more than ****in 6 years. atsch And they're all butthurt when you criticize him. Rosinsky, Sigmon, Lopez, Jaco, Espino, Rubio, Lockett, ... :dead & they still got the nerves to say other fighter are fighting bums and "nursing" their world titles. atsch deal
Was Joe's daddy in the corner? (p.s. This does remind me though of what a fun "trainer" battle that was, with the **** talking between Leow and Enzo AND then of course us fans on here )