Larry Holmes vs. Wladimir Klitschko.

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Larry had a very good right hand, Wlad has been Koed 3 times

    So there is a good chance that Holmes can get a KO, whether hes a Ko artist or not
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry if Lennox didnt KO Tua, i dont see Wladmir doing any better.

    Wlad is a poor mans lennox lewis

    There i said it.
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    Either way Wlad beats the rubber match Ali easier than Norton did and he beats Young easier than Norton did.

    I don't rate Lyle as highly as you do.

    Wlad destroys Norton in a way that the fight wouldn't be competitive from start to ko.

    I think Larry has a better jab.
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    yes how crazy that the current dominant champion is being considered in the same league as a less dominant champ from 30 years ago.

    how bizarre.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    In one case, the guy actually fought the fights.

    In the other, we have only speculation.



    Maybe. We'll never know.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    Agree with every word :)
     
  7. MadcapMaxie

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    I think this would be for the most part a battle of the jabs, Holmes' faster and more snappy vs Wlad's longer and more stiff one. Overall I think Holmes would outwork Wlad to a dec. over 15 (Assuming it's 15) a distance Wlad hasn't tasted. Wlad isn't going to be able to jab, jab, jab, right hand clinch the more skilled and crafy Holmes all throughout the fight, Holmes will pick up on some things and counter using his much more superior lateral movement and being to work on angles. Also Holmes was the far more tougher and durable cookie with crazy amounts of heart, Wlad is more likely to be KO'd which I could envision happening in the Championship rounds. I think Holmes however like against Cooney will play it safe and go for the dec.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

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    Vlad had better late power than Lennox (Lewis never stopped anyone past the 8th round) Vlad KO Chambers in 12 and rocked Sam Peter in 11th

    As far as being a poor mans Lennox I disagree with you...Vlad is a different fighter better jab like I said has power until the end....What they have in common was Manny Stewart but Manny's tailored each man to there gifts and needs.

    Vlad has already had about 20 + more fights than Lewis and may be prime now, time will tell how good he will develop
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    I don't see Wlad developing any further, and at 36 years is probably past prime now. I think his best years were between 2005-2009. The only thing that's keeping him around and looking good is the level of opposition he's facing. If this were 1991, you wouldn't be calling a 36 year old Wlad "prime."
     
  10. robg

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    Wladimir Klitschko Wins UD.
     
  11. Todd498

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    A poor mans Lewis? With a better right hand, jab, AND left hook. Not to meantion, he's also smarter. Lets face it.. Lewis isn't the brightest bulb on the tree.
     
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  12. Todd498

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    Wlad uses his strength, speed, power, and size to wear Holmes down and pick up a late stoppage win or a UD. Holmes would have his moments, but Wlad would have more of them and hit Larry with shots as hard as Shavers did.
     
  13. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Holmes would outpoint Wlad. He'd be too quick and be getting off first. Despite Holmes being 6'3-6'4 compared to Wlad's 6'6, Holmes actually had longer arms than Wlad. Both had an 81" reach, however Wlad is more broad than Holmes was, meaning that his back and shoulders add more to his reach than Holmes's back and shoulders added to his own.

    We've never seen how Wlad would react against a person with a great jab, and I don't think he'd react well. Wlad hasn't shown that he can change up his fight game mid fight and win. Holmes showed it at very points in his career in various situations.

    Wlad has shown he has a great jab, a great straight right, and a great left hook. He knows how to control distance well, but that wouldn't serve him much good against Holmes because they both work best at the same distance.

    Where this fight becomes most interesting, in my opinion, would be to see where Wlad can and can't effectively fight.

    Holmes showed that he can fight very effectively from the outside, at mid range, and on the inside and has a variety of weapons including a good body attack, very hard uppercuts, his famous jab, hard straight and overhand rights, and an underrated right hook. His only real weak point in his attack is his left hook, which wasn't really "weak," it just wasn't up to par with his other punches.

    Wlad has shown he has a jab, straight right, and left hook that would rival anybody's in history. He has not shown that he can throw to he body effectively, that he can rip uppercuts effectively, or that he can fight effectively at any range. Maybe the only reason we haven't seen this from Wlad is because there is nobody out there that has forced him to fight any different, and I do not blame him for continuing what has been a winning method.

    I just feel that Holmes gives Wlad more to worry about than Wlad gives Holmes to worry about.

    Main Holmes advantages:
    Speed
    Footwork
    More rounded attack
    Chin
    More versatile
    Stamina (could be even, but we have not seen Wlad work at the pace for an entire fight that Holmes did against guys like Norton, Berbick, and Witherspoon)
    Better jab
    Arm length

    Main Klitschko advantages:
    Power
    Height
    Better staight right and left hook
    Heavier (makes Holmes have to work harder in the clinches)
     
  14. Shake

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    Very good post all-around.
     
  15. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes far greater fighter. Holmes all the way ....beat Wlad up with his jab, outmaneuver with good movement and then knock him out within 9 rounds. Wlad will be a mess by the time his seconds drag him semi conscious to his corner.