Andre Berto: The Shoulder Roll Perfected 'Poetry In Motion'

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  1. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't even roll the shoulder right.... and when he did... he didn't do ****. Is like he is trying to avoid the punch and roll at the same time.
     
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    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Nah jokes, Avid. :good
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    To be fair to Berto, he was trying to do it against a Southpaw.... isnt the best opponent to try it out on.
     
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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  5. All these gifs are from round 1. Show him successfully using this move during the rest of the fight...
     
  6. SweatPea

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    thanks homie
     
  7. R.B.J

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    He's bad but he's not Wolfe/Peterson bad. Damn.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah I was going overboard with that. Nobody is as bad as those two
     
  9. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol he gets punched in the stomach and shakes it off like he did not get hit.. Seemed like in the start he was trying to think he can beat this guy easy and block all his punches.. With no real game plan it seemed,but I mean he fought with his eyes almost shut and never quit..

    You guys **** on a guy that gets KO"D "Khan" and even a guy that is getting rocked still trying to throw, the mock fest grows,wheres the respect for the fighters and what they do.:patsch
     
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    Peterson is in a class of his own, the absolute worst trainer I've ever seen, but Morgan is up there.
    I fail to see how Morgan is better than Wolfe, In fact when you consider Berto's physical gifts along with his vast amateur experience, Morgan is actually much worse.
     
  11. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    Lol, got to be sarcastic

    First off, the shoulder roll is utilized for quicker counters. What berto did was put his left shoulder high making his stance difficult to launch quick counters even with decent speed

    Second, floyd's chin wasn't always tucked on his shoulder. He rolls his shoulder in whenever he's attacked with the right hand. Berto, on the other hand, just put his left shoulder up, tucked his chin, then stand at mid range. So it's better to call it "shoulder high defense" rather than shoulder roll

    Now, as i've said, the shoulder roll is utilized for easier positioning and better mobility to throw in some quick counters. And berto looked like **** when he stood mid range with shoulder high because he doesn't have better mobility.

    Hell, cotto and margarito's high guard has better mobility than that

    Lastly, if floyd doesn't know how to position himself, or not quick enough to throw counters. His shoulder defense is useless
     
  12. borj

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    Also, he used to a south paw

    Good southpaw opponent + static shoulder roll defense at mid range = "hit me for free"
     
  13. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    Thankyou....

    The left straight will often hit, even more so, depending on the body positionings...

    Though i favored Mayweather over Ortiz, i was surprised on how many of his lefts were landing in flush.... i think alot more than Mayweather had expected too
     
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    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    True dat.... Berto's more of a high shoulder guard, and crouches down on his backleg to elevate the shoulder (making him appear off-balanced, well ok he IS off-balanced). Changes the transition from defensive posture to counter offensives a bit...
     
  15. stillth3sameg

    stillth3sameg Woolly Rhino Full Member

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    although berto looked pretty shitty last fight, he KO's khan