To the Pacquiao fans who think Pac won the 1st fight due to a scoring error...

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  1. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    In all honesty I have NEVER cared or given thought to the 10-6 'controversy' for a few reasons

    One being that a good number of the rounds that should have gone to Marquez, went to Pacquiao in the scoring

    Secondly purely from a point of having a beef with Leadermans scorecard and the fuss he made over the 10-6, when he clearly stated during Floyd - Corrales, that judges are not compelled to go below 10-7 and many don't do it as they feel it puts the boxer too far out of the fight
     
  2. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He got his info at Yahoo.com
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hoards of people scored it 8 rounds for Marquez which gives him the fight by a point.
    I had it 9 rounds for Marquez which gives him the fight by 3 points,
    114-111.

    I thought Juthra was off in round 2, thats definitely a Pacquiao round.
    Except for round 2, his scorecard is fine. Lots of people had Marquez winning 9 rounds and this particular judge is off by a round.

    Judge Stevenson however is a disgrace! Who the hell beside the inept Harold Lederman, famous for his atrocious scorecards in boxing forums like this, had it that wide for Pacquiao?

    At one point in the fight this turd of a judge gives Pacquiao 5 rounds in a row.
    Rounds 7 through 11 he gives to Pacquiao? Are you ****ing kidding me! :patsch
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lederman is all over the place. He's never consistent with his scores or in anything he say's.
    It all depends on the fighter and the agenda he's trying to suit HBO!
     
  5. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So even being Knocked down 3 times in a round, judges should score it 10-7 so the other boxer can still be in a fight?
     
  6. Villain

    Villain Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah have to admit the judging was just bad all around there. The problem with the first round mistake is that the judge later admitted not scoring it 10-6 was a mistake which would have given Pac the win. The other "errors" are subjective and wouldn't have changed the outcome.

    All in all I think the draw was the best decision for that fight. 2-0-1 Pac.
     
  7. Villain

    Villain Active Member Full Member

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    Lol.. Dude someone seriously needs to add a tinfoil hat to your avatar.
     
  8. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many fights have ever continued after three knockdowns in a round?
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah that is straight despicable. No way you put it, Pac didn't win more than 6 rounds in the fight.
     
  10. borj

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  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    you're a ****ing idiot.

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  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac got jobbed out of a victory in this fight. That's not an opinion, it's a fact based on a documented error.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The scoring rules for judges dont oblige them to deduct a point for a knockdown, thats why the commision could not overturn that scorecard.

    That does'nt really matter does'nt it? You, your momma and your grandma know Pacquiao did not win more than 5 rounds in that fight, so the judge who scored it 115-110 Pacquiao is more in error than the judge who scored that 1st round 10-7!


    Whats ridiculous about boxing is that fighter A can score a knockdown in every round, and there is nothing a boxing commision would do if one of the judges scored 10-9 rounds to the fighter who's arse was hitting the canvas.
    The argument being that scoring is subjective and scoring a 10-9 to the fighter that was dropped while not perfectly fine, the commision would'nt do anything about it.

    That ******* is whats wrong with boxing. Nobody oversees the judges. Commisions just sweep bad judging under the rug instead of holding them accountable for the way they came up with their scores.

    A 10-7 round is allowed in a 3 knockdown round. There's really nothing wrong with a judge scoring a 3 knockdown round a 10-7 as long as he's consistent in scoring such rounds the same way in all the fights he judges.

    Giving Pacquiao 7 rounds in fight 1 is just unacceptable. That judge should have been reviewed and lost his judging license, because there is absolutely no way anyone who's scoring unbiasly should come up with that ridiculous score when everyone including alot of the *******s would admit Marquez put on a clinic of boxing from round 3 foward.

    Marquez is putting on a clinic through the last 10 rounds is this BOZO of a judge see's fit to bank Pacquiao 5 of those rounds, including 5 ****ing rounds in a row, round 7 to 11!
    Absolutely not *******! There is now ****ing way to explain off scoring rounds 7 to 11 to Manny Pacquiao. There is'nt even anyone in team Pacquiao, Pac himself, Roach, Buboy, Ariza, none of them could even begin to make a case Pacquiao won 7 rounds in that fight.

    The 115-110 score in favor of Pacquiao is a complete atrocity and a joke, I know it, you know it, team Pacquiao knows it, and the judge the dishonest judge who rendered that score knows it.
    That ******* is what you should be talking about and harping about, not the 10-7 score that judge who rendered it usually scores it under WBA rules anyways.


    115-110 is the joke, not the 10-7 round for Pacquiao!!!!!!:deal:bbb
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    115-110 for Pacquiao (7 rounds for Pac) is more justifiable than 115-110 for Marquez (10 rounds, no ****ing way!)

    as for the 10-7 round the judge himself admitted he made an error. So it's a ****ing error any way you look at it.
     
  15. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Whether he admits he made an error or not isn't really the issue, considering his whole scorecard was flat-out shocking, so his unintentional error saved us (partly, because I beleive Marquez should have got the nod) from a complete screwjob

    The guy gave Pac 5 straight rounds in a row are you kidding me :patsch