Juan Manuel Marquez denies doping accusations

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  1. kirk

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    The guy has a conditioning coach who made his name in the PED world, JMM's approaching 40 and you can see the fiber strands in his muscles for the first time in his life, his veins popping out, his head looks bloated, and all of this is because hes just doing new workouts :lol:

    To each their own, personally I dont super care if he is or isnt, but I just find it funny how people try to rationalise this.

    But like I said, everyone will have an opinion and thats all it is. I cant fault his fans for wanting to think hes clean but I just find it humerous is all.
     
  2. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's more a case of laughing at those who vehemently denied Pac was on
    peds because there was no proof but are desperately jumping on this.
     
  3. Bladegunner

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    *******s asking for extra testing.

    The irony.
     
  4. divac

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    I'm possibly Marquez' biggest fan on this board and I cant say one way or the other whether he's clean or he's using PED's.

    Nobody can say for certain whether he's clean or not, but how can anyone criticize a man who's willing to take tests????
    The fighter in the other corner is'nt willing to take those tests.

    I'll say one thing to you Kirk, just be consistent in your opinions on spreading guilt through association. If you suggest Marquez is juicing because Heredia is his conditioning coach, what does that say of Andre Ward, Berto, and Nonito Donaire association with Victor Conte?

    Conte is associated with these fighters and he's not even a conditioning coach, now thats something to be suspicious about.
    Conte supplies these fighters with alleged supplements. Berto has allready tested positive for PED use, yet Conte chalks it up to Berto taking contaminated supplements on his own.
    If either of his other fighters test positive for PED's, Conte can say the same about them, they took contaminated supplements other than what he supplies.

    Lets not just point the finger on just Marquez here, start pointing fingers at Ward and Donaire folks as they're linked to the man that supplied both Mosley and the single season and career HR champ of MLB!


    I say Manny Pacquiao and big fat mouth Freddie Roach should man up and say, lets take PED tests from here until the fight every other day starting now. I doubt very seriously Pacquiao has the balls to submit to a PED test. Athletes who take PED's usually dont like to be tested! :yep
     
  5. Smokin' Joe

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    Modern, scientific training methods >> Throwing rocks & drinking ****.
     
  6. DobyZhee

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    I don't care if Marquez uses PEDS, just knock Manny back to his congressman job.

    Its not like he's gonna kill Pac if he was doping..
     
  7. divac

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    :yep:yep:yep:yep:yep:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  8. Gazza

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    I believe him.
     
  9. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They both are the same size. Don't worry!

    Their first 2 fights were fun but the third one was boring.

    I hope that the 4th fight will be fun and exciting.
     
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    I am consistent. I have said that Ward shouldnt be associated with Conte and that it creates a cause for suspicion.

    However, they arent bulging out of their skin with their head looking like its going to pop. That is by no means a PED test, but I can assure you they would get a lot more public suspicion if they were the ones hulking out when almost 40 years old.

    Bottom line : I have doubts about anyone who brings in PED farmers into their camp.


    This isnt a thread about them, this is a thread about JMM.

    I already stated I think many top fighters are on PEDS.

    If theres a thread that pops up about Ward or Donaire using peds, and I see it, Ill post in those.

    This is about JMM, hence me talking about JMM.
     
  11. divac

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    The pictures of Marquez with his muscles bulging, we saw those same pictures in the leadup to the Mayweather and 3rd Pacquiao fights.
    Those pictures are where he looks like probably have been taken shortly after pumping iron.
    When he enters the ring, he's not going to look quite as pumped as that.


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    If you're going to accuse Marquez fine, but what do you think of this here photograph of a former bantamweight champ????
     
  12. floyd_g.o.a.t

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    So why doesn't Pacquiao tell him to take the test?
     
  13. divac

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    It weakens him remember?

    I can see where it may. Anytime he cant freely PED up, I'd imagine he does'nt feel as strong! :lol:
     
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    Roach asked for random testing this bout, but Arum blocked it.
     
  15. divac

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    Thats rumor and bull! Pacquiao should voice out loud just like Marquez has that he was willing to take random tests, he has'nt, enough said!