For the record UR, I've stated in various threads on this forum that I believe both Heredia and Conte should be banned from having anything to do with fighters. Boxing does'nt have a backbone so they're affiliating themselves with fighters. ......and also for the record I have'nt sided one way or the other whether Marquez may be using PED's or not. I'm not *******ed or am I saying that Marquez is clean of PED's. He may very well be on them under the guidance of Heredia. I dont know for sure. What I do know for sure is that in order for Marquez to climb to welter where team Pacquiao forced him too, he needed to hire a strenghth and conditioning coach to put the weight on the proper way, not an ancient way of throwing rocks over his head. For that, he hired a good strenghth and conditioning coach who was at the time training other mexican athletes. Do I feel Marquez is roiding? I dont know, he maybe,but I'm not about to accuse him when he's willing and challenging Pacquiao for both to take random PED test. Pacquiao's side is against the PED testing, team Marquez welcomes it. How that hell that can be criticized is beyond me. IMO Manny Pacquiao himself confirmed his cheating in this interview, and I've been convinced he's a cheater ever since. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCa1-X7ey5Y[/ame] What more can anyone ask of an athlete that he's willing to submit to be tested. BTW, when Heredia was boasting he had PED's to beat PED tests, the testers were'nt up to date to the new fashion drugs Victor Conte was pushing. Apparently Heredia was involved in that. Those drugs however are now known and if I'm not mistaken, can be detected by certain tests now. If the labs dont know of certain designer steroids, then they cant test for them, they have since been found out as far as I know. Get educated UR, before you go calling anyone a joke!
For me "volunteering" to take a test is not a method of proving anyone guilty or innocent. Mainly because the tests themselves are barely reliable unless VADA carry them out, or so it seems, but also because "volunteering" means little. Sign a fight then quietly say, actually, "shall we do the correct testing"? I'm not buying it. The fact is a lot of fighters seem to be bluffing each other. I just take it at face value now. If you are caught with an illegal performance enhancing drug in your system, you are caught with an illegal performance enhancing drug in your system. Sorry Morales, Tarver, Berto.
Exactly! People are arguing about taking the test, but these guys can quite easily do this stuff outwith their 12 week training regimen and cycle it out. Then even if they do choose to take a test, who's to say that test will be an efficient one anyway? By all accounts many forms of testing are atrocious these days. It angers me, to think some fighters are benefitting simply because promoters see drug testing as an extra hassle rather than a necessity, but just got to put up with it.
:deal "I just don't want to test the day of the fight" Manny "Well Manny you have 14 days, two weeks with no blood test" Brian Kenny "That is too close to the fight" Manny atschatsch:rofl
of course he would. he has no choice since he is under heredia's program. but heredia claimed to have developed different kinds of undetectable PEDs.
If he can make undetectable ones, you better believe there's other guys out there who can do it too. The entire sporting World is on PEDs, apparently.