Juan Manuel Marquez denies doping accusations

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by brando, Nov 27, 2012.


  1. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    And yet has no problem with believing Pac is on PEDs. Certainly in the past, anyway. Div is a joke.
     
  2. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL! The shoe is on the other foot. TAKE THE TEST!!!! :yep
     
  3. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    marquez should take the test!!!
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    For the record UR, I've stated in various threads on this forum that I believe both Heredia and Conte should be banned from having anything to do with fighters.
    Boxing does'nt have a backbone so they're affiliating themselves with fighters.

    ......and also for the record I have'nt sided one way or the other whether Marquez may be using PED's or not. I'm not *******ed or am I saying that Marquez is clean of PED's. He may very well be on them under the guidance of Heredia. I dont know for sure.
    What I do know for sure is that in order for Marquez to climb to welter where team Pacquiao forced him too, he needed to hire a strenghth and conditioning coach to put the weight on the proper way, not an ancient way of throwing rocks over his head.
    For that, he hired a good strenghth and conditioning coach who was at the time training other mexican athletes.

    Do I feel Marquez is roiding? I dont know, he maybe,but I'm not about to accuse him when he's willing and challenging Pacquiao for both to take random PED test. Pacquiao's side is against the PED testing, team Marquez welcomes it. How that hell that can be criticized is beyond me.


    IMO Manny Pacquiao himself confirmed his cheating in this interview, and I've been convinced he's a cheater ever since.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCa1-X7ey5Y[/ame]

    What more can anyone ask of an athlete that he's willing to submit to be tested.

    BTW, when Heredia was boasting he had PED's to beat PED tests, the testers were'nt up to date to the new fashion drugs Victor Conte was pushing. Apparently Heredia was involved in that.
    Those drugs however are now known and if I'm not mistaken, can be detected by certain tests now.
    If the labs dont know of certain designer steroids, then they cant test for them, they have since been found out as far as I know.


    Get educated UR, before you go calling anyone a joke!
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's volunteering for them, why has'nt Pacroid?
     
  6. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Haha. Yes, because athletes often admit doping allegations.
     
  7. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For me "volunteering" to take a test is not a method of proving anyone guilty or innocent.

    Mainly because the tests themselves are barely reliable unless VADA carry them out, or so it seems, but also because "volunteering" means little. Sign a fight then quietly say, actually, "shall we do the correct testing"? I'm not buying it.

    The fact is a lot of fighters seem to be bluffing each other. I just take it at face value now. If you are caught with an illegal performance enhancing drug in your system, you are caught with an illegal performance enhancing drug in your system. Sorry Morales, Tarver, Berto.
     
  8. mishima

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    volunteering for them 10 days before the fight means nothing.. the **** is now out of his system
     
  9. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly! People are arguing about taking the test, but these guys can quite easily do this stuff outwith their 12 week training regimen and cycle it out.

    Then even if they do choose to take a test, who's to say that test will be an efficient one anyway? By all accounts many forms of testing are atrocious these days.

    It angers me, to think some fighters are benefitting simply because promoters see drug testing as an extra hassle rather than a necessity, but just got to put up with it.
     
  10. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    :deal "I just don't want to test the day of the fight" Manny

    "Well Manny you have 14 days, two weeks with no blood test" Brian Kenny

    "That is too close to the fight" Manny :patsch:patsch:rofl
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    who cares about blood test when USADA destroy them blood samples upon instructions from promoters?
     
  12. mishima

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    Marquez "I hired a guy for S&C but know nothing about his past"

    OK
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    of course he would. he has no choice since he is under heredia's program. but heredia claimed to have developed different kinds of undetectable PEDs.
     
  14. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    If he can make undetectable ones, you better believe there's other guys out there who can do it too.


    The entire sporting World is on PEDs, apparently.
     
  15. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Freddie shouldnt ba hating or be angry... If they could do it why cant Marquez?:lol: