Marquez Suggests Drug Testing for Pacquiao Bout

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    (Posted yesterday by ABS-CBS News)

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/28/12/marquez-suggests-drug-testing-pacquiao-bout

    MANILA, Philippines – Mexican champion Juan Manuel Marquez is willing to undergo drug testing in order to prove that he is not using performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) ahead of his fourth clash with rival Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao.

    “As far as people thinking (if) I am taking steroids, I would take the test. Let them take my blood. I don’t care – just to shut everybody up,” Marquez said in an interview with USA Today.

    Marquez was responding to assertions made by Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, who commented that the Mexican's increase in bulk was suspicious.

    “He has gotten bigger and gained weight. It throws up a red flag,” Roach told USA Today. “I’ve been accused so many times of my fighters being on steroids. I hate to accuse other people.”

    “But it’s part of our life, part of the world we live in,” he added.

    Prior to his third fight against Pacquiao in November 2011, Marquez worked with a strength and conditioning trainer for the first time in his career. Angel “Memo” Hernandez was credited with helping Marquez in training camp but his presence also raised suspicions.

    Hernandez previously sold PEDs to former Olympians Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.

    Marquez defended his trainer, however, saying that it was “disrespectful when people start rumors like this.”

    “I’ve never done this type of work before. That’s why my body has changed. I have been working very hard, specifically to get more strength,” he said.

    “Angel is a professional and knows how much weight I am putting on. I am getting more speed and getting stronger at the same time,” he added.

    Marquez further pointed out that his “fight tests have always been clean.”

    Roach said Pacquiao would be willing to take a pre-fight drug test, though their promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank, said the Nevada State Athletic Commission will have to sign off before the tests are done.

    “It has to be completely thought out. If someone had to come to me with this, I would have gone to the commission. Then it’s controlled and run by the commission. That’s the way to do it,” Arum said.
     
  2. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny how pacturds are quiet now. Why cant Manny do this?
     
  3. mishima

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    working with Memo=no fear of failing tests
     
  4. avenel

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    over at the scene roach says marquez refused voluntary drug testing so who is right ?
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Being innocent also=no fear of taking the test.
     
  6. tonyb

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    roach is crazy
     
  7. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm a big Marquez fan and have always rooted for him, but I do think he's just trying to "level the playing field". Freddy Roach is not going to do no blood testing and Marquez knows this.

    There is a slim, a very slim chance that he (JMM) has developed naturally by implementing new workouts and diets, but I find it very unlikely. He's almost 40 yrs old! I can be suspicious all I want, but until he fails a drug test, I can't call him a cheat.
     
  8. McGrain

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    I think this is fair. What I would say is that he's training six days a week and that he's added lifting very heavy weights to his training in an attempt to gain solid weight for welter, rather than the goey look we saw versus Mayweather.

    I'm NOT an expert, but a calorie controlled diet married to professional training in a certain type of person should yeild these results. Could be wrong, but there it is.
     
  9. Hermit

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    You guys do realize that the fight is in Nevada so subject to the commission random testing there? They popped a test on Martinez and Jr. and could do so anytime they choose on Pac and Marquez and both guys know it.
     
  10. mishima

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    it's hard to claim innocence when you are working with a PED's coach and claim to be unaware of their previous work
     
  11. mishima

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    not all PED's develop your physique and they can still give you an advantage in the ring
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You live in a world where this association absolutely guarantees his guilt, and even if he takes the test and passes he is still guilty and a remark he made in an interview about not knowing or caring about past infractions by a third party helps in proving his guilt.

    Is there absolutely no corner of your mind that rebels at the absolute surity of guilt you are experiencing where absolutely no crime has ever been proven during a nineteen year career as a professional sportsman? Because I have to tell you, it's one of the more bizarre obsessions of surity i've come across on the board, which is saying something.
     
  13. mishima

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    the stuff would be cycled out
     
  14. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should use the Pacqaio defense which he and his fans use.. "I have never tested positive for enhancement drugs..
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes, I know that, thank you. But the post I was replying to was specifically about the development of the fighter in question, so I responded in kind.

    Now we have

    a) his physical apperance proves he is guilty

    b) but if his physical apperance was different he would still be guilty

    c) even if he takes the test he's guilty

    d) he's guilty

    :lol: