The commission tested Jr and Martinez at the presser announcing the fight. They reserve the right to test any time so unless they are cycled before the fight is signed they ARE subject to random testing.
don't put words in my mouth. I haven't mentioned his physical appearance he is working with a coach who has admitted his ability to avoid detection in tests. So if Marquez agrees to take the test it doesn't mean he is innocent. Deal with it:deal
I'm not putting words in your mouth. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14257045&postcount=110 Are you okay? I have absolutely no problems dealing with any of this. To me, it seems very possible that some of these athletes are abusing PED''s - you'd have to be stupid not to consider that possibility. But your total inability to acknowledge even the slightest possibility that he may be inoccent, and your total inability to even answer these questions but rather start spouting - again - something you've said on the forum about 45 times in the last three days, makes it pretty clear that you can't deal with the possibility of the opposite.
OK, but we are now into the area of 'so what'. That time is passed anyhow and any testing now would be pretty much useless except for the truly stupid. These guys claiming they want testing two weeks out is hilarious.
Some guys just got the genes which makes it hard for those without to comprehend. Some of us could put in 4 times the work as a Marquez and not get 1/4 the benefit because we just weren't born with the physical abilities. We all like to harbor the belief that if we work and try hard enough we can do whatever we set our minds too. Until you've been deflated by being around someone that proves you wrong, it is hard to comprehend.
It's just mind games. If Roach was serious about it, he would have mentioned it right at the beginning. Not 8 days before the fight.
Yeah, but WHY? I mean why drag boxing into the absolute gutter, as you and Hermit say, without any possible resolution available? It's insane. Roach and Marquez are ****ing idiots for taking this approach, it's a disgrace.
so? I've also made posts where you can take PED's that do nothing for your physique. Maybe you should do a search on them?
Well, JMM hasn't really done anything wrong. He's just brought in a coach to improve his conditioning. He can't do anything about other people accusing him of juicing. Roach, on the other hand, is being a bit of a knob and making a poor attempt to get under JMM's skin.
so you said "you've never mentioned his physical appearence" and told me off for putting words in your mouth and I then corrected you. Twice. why? I would if lied about it and told a lie yourself right behind that, but there's no point.
It's not impossible for him to be innocent but everything indicates that he is more likely to be on something than be clean
Marquez should have shut the **** up about it. As has been pointed out, babbling about taking the test a few days out is stupid. Where before there was inuendo on blogs and forums, now there are boxing headlines.
Thanks to Roach, not JMM. I understand your point, but the only crime JMM has commited is replying how anyone would when someone's just accused them of cheating - saying 'come and test me then'. The situation was blown up and made to look worse before JMM even responded.