Maxie Rosenbloom Ranking?

Naw. Great resume, but the guy will never rate well head to head because he was the weakest puncher in boxing history, stalled throughout fights, was incredibly boring, slapped with his punches more than calzaghe, and never took any risks. He was Clever, smart, experienced and had some skills but it ends there. The guy couldnt attract a homeless man to one of his fights if he paid him! He would upset some greats with his unsual style, but more often than not they will expose him. does have a great resume. I sound like Jimmy Two Times. Gotta go get the papers, get the papers.

* there is no film of slapsie maxie. a historian confirmed that with me

 

His lack of filmed documentation, as well as his defensive, slapping style is the knock on him, but really he deserves much higher ranking and esteem than he has gotten. The guy was AMAZING...he fought all the time, had a staggering number of fights, couldn't or wouldn't close his fists and punch, yet he was stopped just a couple of times, and not in peak times..figure it out.

 

Probably top 85.

 

Yes indeed he's underrated. You actually beat me to the punch in starting a Rosenbloom thread. i think he was incredible. He fought all the time..avoided nobody, didn't have a "color line", was stopped onlt twice in his career, and I'm not sure of what variety the stoppages were. He had NO punching power, yet he beat Greb, Walker, and had Louis actually apprehensive about fighting him. joe didn't think he'd look too good vs Maxie. I think his nickname and his often comic persona masked the truth, that he was an amazing fighter.
in saying that "you beat me to the punch in starting a Rosenbloom thread", I didn't realize that this is a bumped thread from '08.

 

He did not beat Greb. Several years ago Ring magazine did an article on Rosenbloom where they said he beat Greb and got so many letters from people with the actual results of the fight that they printed a retraction in their letters section.

 

He was pretty green then though.

 

didn't know that. why has it been reported as such?

 

I would guess its because most of Harry Greb's opponents outlived him and could write their own version of events.

Rosenbloom was green, thats true, but he didnt beat Greb. Green or not. I'll see if I can find the magazine where they printed the retraction. It was a few years ago.

 

Because The Ring was part of the NY media and thus gave NY fighters the nod whenever possible (compare their report of the LaMotta-Cerdan fight to the primary sources[Detroit papers] for a classic example). Rosenbloom was, for the most part, a NY fighter. Greb was not.

Greb gave Rosenbloom a bad pasting (Maxie admitted this in interviews). This is from Boxrec:

Greb was an "easy winner" of a fight in which "after the third round it was an effort upon the part of the New Yorker to stay the limit, and, while Greb hammered him at will, he was unable to land a knockout punch." (Coshocton Tribune) Greb floored Rosenbloom for a seven-count in the sixth round. Actually, according to the Pittsburgh Post, Rosenbloom started well and was ahead after five rounds. But Greb then won each of the last five rounds, and gave Rosenbloom a particularly bad time of it in rounds six and seven.

 

He's lock for top ten lhw.

When he was motivated he just didn't lose. Over the limit his lack of power really cost him but as a lhw he was the man right up until John Henry Lewis came along.

P4P its hard to say. He had next to know succes above lhw and there's no film of him to evaluate his skill level. His resume is great but for every great win there's a close loss to a journeyman at 180 pounds.

However it's sliced he's an all time great.

 

Last time I did a top 100 (late 2010), he was my #51...

 

Yup! That was my letter.

 

:goodthanks bat! and thanks LT. appreciate the historical context