Roach "Strength trainers are bulls**t"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mellamomarcos, Nov 29, 2012.


  1. HeavyPuncha

    HeavyPuncha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You guys are a bunch of ****ing idiots. You fall for this? It's called ****ing PROMOTION.
     
  2. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chef/Nutritionist plus Training camp manager and strength and conditioning during the first 2 weeks of camp and then maintenance during camp. I wear a lot of hats in camp

    I still feel some of the "old school" stuff works, but modern training has really made athletes stronger, faster and just better athletes.... and not just boxing... the biggest change i made with wlad was I got him swimming instead of the long long running like a horse in the hills.

    Wlad still does running movements in the ring, but with his size, the swimming has been much more affective for cardio and overall full body workout with NO back, hip, knee, ankle, or foot pain that a guy 6'5'' 245lb would normally get from jogging
     
  3. Boxalot

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    For sure. Ariza and Manny are clearly very friendly, and if having him around helps Pacquiao's state of mind it can only be a good thing.

    That said, Ariza clearly states in the video that they've stopped S&C in recent fights, and doesn't mention a reason. It just seems odd to change something that helped propel him to the top of the P4P rankings. There's been a noticable decline in his last 3 fights, and it's those 3 fights that he hasn't done S&C. For someone so reliant on their physical abilities, it makes zero sense to me.
     
  4. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First rate input chef! Tnx bro!
     
  5. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal

    Wladimir was widely viewed as having stamina problems early on in his career, but they've clearly been addressed. He's had late stoppage after late stoppage, so CHEF's work has clearly been effective. That's a compliment to him, despite me not being a big fan of the Klit's in the ring (although i respect Wlad greatly).

    It's very, very interesting and informative to have people on here who are directly involved in the sport.
     
  6. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really cant see how a strength and conditioning can hurt you. It is definitely a plus to have.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You've got to be very nieve to believe everything that comes out of that camps mouth.
    There is absolutely now way Ariza is still in camp with Pacquiao just to stretch him. :lol: Thats ridiculous.

    They've stopped S&C and Ariza is still around? Bull!

    I can certainly believe that Pacquiao may have put a halt to certain extreme aspects of Ariza's regimen's, but I doubt he's going to cut the program altogether and still have him around.

    Whats coming out of that camps mouth is not the truth.
    Freddie Roach has complimented Ariza's methods in the past and he's opened the doors for his very own fighters to also work with Ariza, Khan and Chavez Jr. being prime examples.

    This is nonsense that Ariza is no longer doing S&C with Pacquiao.
    Complete and utter nonsense!
     
  8. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal

    Strength and conditioning is a MASSIVE part of boxing and experts in this field are a vital part of a fighters team.