Arum turns down Schaefer's Offer for Donaire-Mares and Matthysse-Rios

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  1. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Lance says wait until the Donaire fight is over before talking about future fights but Rios possibly fighting pac also stops any chance of talks?

    What if Pac loses? What if a Bradley rematch happens. He can be open to the possibility?

    You need to be banned just for being a ******.
     
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    woah.. :lol::lol:
     
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    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Arum has shown no interest in a rigo/donaire fight. And anything can happen. Pac and Rigo could both lose. No one is saying he should or should have accepted the offer but to completely blow it off? What about after Rigo/Donaire and Rios/Pac happen? You think Arum will be considering that trade? NO!!!!! He won't.

    Wake the **** up people he completely dismissed the offer and basically told Gbp to **** off. All the people defending Arum all have different logic and reasoning..... ****in hilarious.
     
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    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Wow shocker -a promoter does not want another promotional company to make money off his fighters.

    What is next, a top fighter that does PPV fights only even for shitty opponents.

    We are all part of this corrupt shitty business model business call professional boxing.
     
  5. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Well Gbp was willing to do it. And the only reason that those are the terms is because Arum refuses to co-promote the fights with Gbp.
     
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    Arum being Arum

    This guy is a ****ing cancer to the sport, really
     
  7. crimson

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    But you have to understand that Arum does not want to work with another company he feels a threat - and GBP is a legitimate threat to TR.

    Yes it sucks, but if we really want to change things, we must not buy Pac, PBF, Klits and others.

    But that will never happen. As they say "we made the bed, now we sleep in it"
     
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    You mean besides putting him on televised events of his top fighters, including Donaire?

    And so Donaire fights Pacquiao's fighter (Kratidyngenium or whatever his name is) and Pacquiao still brings in more money than any of GBP's stable.
    This is an assumption. Maybe Arum doesn't like the business model but it's more likely he has no reason to make the trade as a business decision. GBP can say whatever it wants to make it seem like they're offering up an effort, just to drum up publicity and fan support among stupid people who are narrow minded.

    If you are Top Rank, why would you trust a "trade" from an organization that tried to eat into your third biggest fight of the year?

    Assuming Rios and Donaire win then he wouldn't be considering a "trade" for the same reasons he wouldn't be considering a "trade" in the first place: business.

    If GBP thought that they could legitimately make money while also making TR money with a "trade" then they should've presented it that way. You're automatically assuming that Arum's Ego is what's to blame. If GBP thought that a rising tide would lift all boats then they would've put together a business proposal with TR in order to show that they both would benefit.

    Arum is a business man, I doubt that he would summarily dismiss a sincere offer by GBP to make himself and his business (and his fighters) money.

    People like yourself do boxing a disfavor by jumping to conclusions on one side or the other based on favoritism. You dislike Arum so he must be evil so he's ruining boxing. A smarter analysis would say that he's simply making a business decision.

    What evidence do you have that he simply dismissed the offer? Are you just offering up your own interpretation of Arum saying no?

    It's simple; GBP announces to the world that they are willing to do a trade in order to increase favor from boxing's nimrods. They wonder why their competition would be so callous as to prevent a clearly fair trade from taking place. Idiots buy it up and continue to demonize whoever it is that they are told to demonize.
     
  9. markq

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    Where is DoDUNG to defend Bob?
     
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    Everybody needs to chill. Get like me and just wait for Arum to die. And then pray that Todd has more of an open mind.:good
     
  11. str1

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    After reading all this **** I came to the conclusion that...........wait for it.......HERMIT is ARUM! :yikes :yikes
     
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    About as well reasoned as most of the idiotic **** in this thread I guess.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    i really want the donaire-mares fight as much as any fight for next year so arum must be willing to sit down with GBP to do it but i understand also that mares is almost out of his contract so he could sign a 1 fight deal to get donaire just like what jmm did to get pac as a free-agent. but GBP is a bit sneaky with the matthysse offer. why would they put zab judah for garcia instead of putting matthysse?
     
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    Rios was a deal breaker and they knew it. Nothing more, nothing less. Arum announced he is holding Rios pending the outcome of the Pac/Marquez fight.
     
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    Uncle Bob has no interest in seeing Lucas beat down Rios.