Arum turns down Schaefer's Offer for Donaire-Mares and Matthysse-Rios

exactly man. That's the key here.

any neutral person can look and see who is preventing these fights from happening

 

Not sure what's hard to understand about this.. Trying to say it's about numbers is grasping at straws that don't even exist, as nothing at all was said by anybody about any numbers.

 

From boxing fans to philippine boxing fans to Pac fans to *******s to Bobtards. Proof of evolution.

 

Again, tit for tat for when Mayweather went behind his back and tried to negotiate with Pac on EXACTLY those terms. Floyd is with GBP. Don't try and make out Floyd is an independent. This would have been a GBP fight because you need a licensed promoter.

See above. Floyd started this one on GBP's behalf. Arum simply turned it around on them and you blame Arum. OK. Sure, why not.

GBP is the one that tied the two fights together knowing that they wouldn't get Rios because he was on hold. This is as plain as day.

Lets put this all together now.
Floyd, on behalf of GBP, makes offer to Pac. One time payment, no Arum, no co-promotion.
Arum turns around and does EXACTLY the same thing to GBP. Same terms.
GBP makes a demand on Rios they know ahead of time won't happen.

If you don't see it now, you never will because you don't want to. Look at the whole picture.

 

Who would have promoted that fight if not Arum? Seriously. Mayweather promotion is just a name. Period.

It isn't me. Did Arum simply turn around Floyd's terms or not? Yes or no. This one is just so simple.

Bingo. Look in the mirror. You have taken a side and refuse to admit what is going on here. Arum turned around and offered GBP exactly what their fighter offered him. And yes, Floyd fights for GBP so that is the same thing as far as Arum is concerned.

Again, yes or no. Aren't these the same terms that were offered for a GBP fight for Floyd/Pac. You simply have no where to go with this one because I am flat out right and you are flat out wrong. But go ahead and blame Arum because it is the popular mob based thinking thing to do and you will get plenty of support for your position.

 

this thread is about Mares and Rios

 

Your point? The point of the whole thread is blaming Arum for making a similar offer that was given for May/Pac. All he did was turn around and offer the same terms. Why was it acceptable for May/Pac but not now?

You guys really don't see what Arum is doing here. Bseen had several articles that showed that Arum is deep under Schaefer's skin. Now he turns around EXACTLY the **** they tried to shoved down his throat back on them. You guys are so, so easy. :rofl

 

OK. Again. Who would have promoted Pac/May under May's proposal. No one wants to answer this one because we know the truth. It would have been a GBP. They have a license and promote his fights. But go ahead. Please answer so we are on the same page.

Floyd flat out denied the negotiations happened for the second round after Arum had been in negotiations. This is why Arum said he didn't know who to negotiate with. Floyd said there were NO negotiations. HBO basically had to step in and back Arum that there were negotiations. So, you lose here. Arum was right to say he didn't know who to negotiate with because of this. Floyd denied the people negotiating for him had the right to do so. Not nearly the same as calling Pac direct and telling him Top Rank could not be involved in the promotion if they fought.

 

no this is what this thread is about

Mayweather has **** all to do with it

 

Wrong again. Arum's response to the 'offer' was based on giving GBP a taste of their own medicine. Deny it if you must to keep you illusion going though.

Trying to leave out the Mayweather, Oscar, Arum history is as ******ed as it gets. I know you have to do so to assign blame where it suits your preconceived notion but it doesn't work to anyone looking at this objectively.

 

I'm not justifying his actions. I'm explaining where they started to a bunch of morons that come on here and openly state they wish he were dead and can't accept that GBP is equally to blame here. What you quoted in no way indicates Arum was the one trying to cut out GB. It simply says Floyd was seeing what kind of deal he might be able to make without them. In the end, Floyd has used GBP for all his recent fights and would have done so under his offer to Pac. Not seeing that Arum is simply now turning these same terms on GBP is just fanboyizm. Blame Arum but if you don't realize the 'counter offer' was meant as a deal killer, well, you just aren't paying attention. GB doesn't want Mares facing Donaire. Even this **** poor matchmakers know he has no chance.