Arum turns down Schaefer's Offer for Donaire-Mares and Matthysse-Rios

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  1. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    I can honestly say I have never seen someone shovel so much **** out of their mouth like Hermit is right now. It's sickening truthfully.
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    well yeah Arum turned down the offer because he doesn't like Oscar and is a petty, childish, greedy, *****.

    But that's why we are all pissed off because he's letting that bull**** come in between making big fights get made
     
  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why in the hell was the counter-offer any more of a dealkiller than the initial offer, which you yourself have already said was more "a taste of their own medicine" than anything legitimate? Your need to simultaneously frame this as a warranted response to Floyd bull**** whilst also portraying the turning down of the offer as some kind of duck/protection by Golden Boy is "fanboyizm" at its finest.

    As for the tangential issues you seem so intent on making this about: So Mayweather's with Golden Boy when it helps your argument and isn't with them when it doesn't? Good to know. If Floyd had the capability to see what he could do without Golden Boy, then it is absurd to characterize his dumb offer (made when there was essentially already no chance of the fight taking place in the first half of 2012) as cosigned by the company, even if they would have handled the promotion.

    This is what Arum himself was saying at that time:
    Schaefer certainly took it as Top Rank trying to cut Golden Boy out, especially when Koncz, who even Pacquiao fans realize is little more than a Top Rank lackey, went to Mayweather's gym.
     
  4. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    again son....you have to consider the financial aspect in boxing.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    look at Arum's statement. Money has nothing to do with why he turned down the offer.
     
  6. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    he may not have said it but why would he give up his promotional rights on rios against lucas when rios is the draw?

    vanes for canelo would have been a more doable proposition.
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    again look at the statement. It didn't matter who Oscar offered.

    Arum turned down the deal on the principle of trading fighters and then went on to insult Oscar.
     
  8. MexicanMuscle

    MexicanMuscle Mexican Powerhouse Full Member

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    He's said many similar comments before as well. Arum acts like a total diva. This isn't the first time he's shot down propositions from GB. He is just a stubborn, greedy piece of ****, that is ****ing up good fights.
     
  9. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    you can't really blame him for that reason then, but oscar's offer itself is an insult.

    how could you and oscar even think that tr would give up their promotional rights on a fighter who's going to be the draw for that fight?? :verysad
     
  10. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    you and dball should read up more on the business side of boxing.
     
  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    exactly man. Arum just straight up will not work with Oscar. Has nothing to do with the offer Oscar made or anything

    are you serious?
    Arum's initial offer was a damn insult. He told Oscar to **** off and leave while he takes his fighter for himself.

    Arum has made two statements about Mares vs Donaire:

    First one: Mares can fight Donaire after his contract runs out with GBP

    Second one: Mares can fight Donaire, but I have to pay Mares myself and GBP can't be involved

    But you think GBP is trying to insult Arum?
     
  12. MexicanMuscle

    MexicanMuscle Mexican Powerhouse Full Member

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    How much money are we the fans getting because of Arum's savy "business" deals?

    You act as if Arum can't make any money by co promoting. If anything he would stand to gain more, because there are some huge crossover fights that can be made. There would be more than enough money for both promoters to split. Arum doesn't want to work with Oscar, not because of the money, but because he doesn't like when he isn't fully in charge. He knows he can't screw over Oscar like he does his fighters, so it pisses him off. He doesn't like Floyd for the same reason.
     
  13. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    couldn't Donaire override anything what his promoter says?

    Its still in Donaire's court.
     
  14. SweatPea

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    Vanes is NOT equivelent to Mares you dumbass.

    hell, Mares is a BIGGER draw than Nonito is. Mares fills arenas. Nonit can't. and he has low HBO ratings.
     
  15. dodong

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    .8mil/fight guarantee by tr says he is not.