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Miguel Cotto vs. Austin Trout & Salvador Sanchez II vs. Jayson Velez RBR

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what are the betting odds on the main event??

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Miguel Cotto is a world class Boxer.

Very intresting to find out just where Trout's level is.
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Cotto hasn't seen a lot of southpaws, but he's done well against them when he has.

Let's throw away Pacquiao, whom Trout doesn't resemble in the least bit stylistically.

Judah, Quintana, and Chop-Chop are all vaguely close (at least relative to Pacquiao) to looks he'll get from Trout.

I think Trout has entered his prime but still isn't on par with a 2007 Judah. Hell, I'm not sure he's better than an unbeaten Quintana or that version of Corley.

In all of Trout's best performances, he's been able to frustrate and annoy slower opponents with his right jab. Guys like D-Rod, Destroyer, and Rigo lack the dimensionality to do anything but plod into it repeatedly and perhaps become hesitant as a result (and wary of the infrequent but very fast left cross). I see Cotto being able to bob and weave through it, and not be deterred if he eats a couple so long as the end result is him getting to rip a few left hooks to Trout's body.

Trout is a legit super welter, and fairly strong, but I don't see him keeping Cotto at bay all night. (and certainly not walking him down)

Cotto on the frontfoot, slipping or ignoring the southpaw jab, has a great chance of felling some timber - or at the very least scaring the daylights out of Trout and forcing him into a pattern too negative to merit awarding points.

Cotto UD or late TKO. :good
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All-star commentary panel.

Brian Kenney, Al Bernstein, Paulie Malignaggi...

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Brian Kenny!!!!

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What exactly does "gimmicky" mean, again? :think

It's his uncle that was famous, first of all, not his dad.

Second, he's hardly been banking off his name.

True, he's nothing like the original Chava at all, but it isn't like he's JCC Jr. getting to headline PPV cards without having ever proven anything in the ring.

He's a C+/B- fighter and he's been toiling away in relative obscurity for the most part, with virtually all of his televised appearances coming on small-scale programs on Spanish-language networks (Telefutura, Televisa, Cadena 3, etc) and hardly ever in the main event.

Since his last defeat, he's earned his way toward a WBC Silver featherweight title shot by remaining undefeated in his next dozen bouts and maintaining a high ranking in the organization by acquiring & making several defenses of a less significant WBC title.

Nothing was handed to him, because of a famous uncle.

Other than having a similar haircut to his legendary relative (who died before he was even born) there is nothing gimmicky about him. He's a hard-working journeyman with some decent power and an iron chin but a slew of other liabilities that make him equal parts entertaining and unable to rise to another level (such as a lack of defense, and a tendency to eschew his pop through "spray and pray" tactics)...who just happens to have an ATG in the family.
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Well then... he's not gimmicky lol. A gimmicky fighter is one who bases his career on a gimmick. I asked because the guy looks like Chava and even wears his robes, but since he's putting in work and making defenses then good for him... I'll for sure be watching his bout

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What time does the Cotto-Trout fight start?

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Sanchez II looks a bit like his uncle.

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pipe wrenched said: ↑

what are the betting odds on the main event??
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http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445531

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Damn look at them huge tities of Cotto's wife!

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Sal sanchez II is co-main event material? Cmon son...........put a guy like pirog on a card for once.

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Damn I wish HBO would bring Kenny in to replace Lampley.

Paulie Malinaggi doesn't have the right to compare himself to trout. Trout has already shown more skill than Paulie.

Paulie talking nonsense about the building. The building didn't save that ass from Cano.

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Never seen someone get credit off winning at best 4 rounds off of Floyd, the same amount a shot Oscar won.

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Only one point on that my friend, this is not the same 'seek and destroy' Cotto, from those days.

Miguel will box tonight, which makes this very intresting.

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Thanks brother :good

It is closed though, or I'd bet just to make it more fun to watch.

So Cotto IS the favorite :think

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Nice mask

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