Trout beat Cotto WAYYY more convincingly than Mayweather!

If you base EM being "DONE" on his one bad performance against Raheem then how would you explain his solid performances against top fighters like Miadiana and Mathsseye? What about Danny Garcia? Cano? He didn't win them all but he was more than competitive...Yet he was "DONE" after he lost to Raheem years ago? What's your definition of the word as it pertains to this sport? It seems your definition is different from most.

MAB just didn't take as bad a beating but the end came faster. Cotto inflicted more damage than MAB in their two respective fights with the pinoy fighter.

Marg and Cotto are physically and stylistically two different fighters....yet both lost in similar fashion to the same fighter. Their successes against their common foe were different because of that. Cotto boxed more intelligently becuase he's more polished and refine....Marg is bigger and more durable which allowed him to hurt PAC where Cotto could not.

Tim needed a "Clinic" after being given the "W" against PAC. He didn't inflict any damage...he didn't out land Manny nor did have a higher connect percentage. Hell....he wasn't even the busier fighter. You must share your definition of what a "CLINIC" is as it pertains to the sweet science as well Bama. I'm more than interested in learning how you come to these different perspectives.

And the "ref" actually couldn't believe the "Judges" score cards for the white wash. 3 people in total thought Tim won...the 2 judges who scored the fight for Tim and you....Tim didn't even believe he won.

And you said Tim had "2 broken feet":think...When you say broken, what do you mean? I saw Tim, who supposedly had "2 broken feet" celebrate after the initial shock of hearing that he won, by using those broken feet to climb the ropes to play to the crowd where he was met with a sea of "BOO's". I mean....if his feet were in fact, broken...then God must have blessed the wheels of Tim for just that night in order to survive....becuase I've broken my ankle before and I couldn't have ran the way he did against PAC for that many round with one broken foot.....let alone TWO.:verysad

I like the berto/cotto fight....I'd like Gurrero, PAC or even Ortiz...Cotto is still a big name in this sport. He's got some more miles left if he still has the passion.

 

? Manhandled? Cotto dropped him with a JAB... and then almost threw his ass out of the ring. You make no sense... Cotto won that fight.

 

i believe he hurt cotto in the first round as well.

 

Morales lost to Maidana, and again nothing more than a old dude showing a glimpse of what made him great, to try to act like he ever came close to his prime is ridiculous. Morales was done as an elite after Manny 1.

Cotto didn't inflict **** against Manny. Dude landed one left and that was all she wrote.

Tim won the fight, deal with it.
The casts and the wheelchair confirm the damage to Tim's feet, deal with it.

Cotto might have a chance against Guerrero, but he gets KO'd by Vic or Devon, gets UD'd by Tim. Gets KO'd by Manny, gets KO'd by Floyd if they fight again. He is simply done.

 

Like I said..."DONE" to you means something different than most. Done would be Erik in his fight with Danny the other week.

EM did lose to Marcos but again....he knocked out a few corners in the process which for a "DONE" fighter was very impressive to say the least.

No one said EM was Prime when Erik lost to PAC, twice....I'm just saying he wasn't "DONE". There are a lot of great fighters who lost and proved they weren't shot or "DONE" afterwards. EM included.

Cotto landed quite a few shots on PAC in their fight.....it was written all over PAC's face. We don't really need to go back and forth on this because that was easy to see.

Hey....I didn't say Tim didn't get the win. He did. We can look on Boxrec to confirm that. I'm just pointing out the facts regarding what actually transpired in the fight. It makes "dealing" with it a lot easier.

Casts? C'mon now Bama....those were not casts and I can go get a wheel chair, take a picture with me sitting in it and claim I have two broken feet.....would it make it true? Nah..:verysad Nothing to deal with on this front....it is what is.

Cotto could be done...but I wouldn't go making any rash judgements based on his recent loss to trout...a bigger man with a southpaw stance. That can be difficult for anyone. And based on how EM was able to bounce back after his defeats to Raheem and then PAC...I'd say it would be wise to learn from history instead of ignoring it.

Call me crazy....but I don't think Cotto is "DONE"...past his physical peak or Prime...but not Done or Shot.:bart

 

So many posts, none of whom belong to Bogo? Where is he? He must not be taking it too good. Sucks, wonder how he will feel next week if things don't go Marquez's way. That'll be 2 weeks in a row for him

 

No

 

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With the exception of the first couple of rounds, Pac really only fought the last half of each round and looked pretty amateurish at times with his wide punches. If Manny would have been giving the "W", I would defintely respect that decision, but Bradley easily outworked/outboxed him the 2nd half of the fight.

 

Tim fought not to win, but to survive. PAC was the aggressor who pushed the action the entire night. Tim...he jabbed the entire night mixing in the occasional power punch that were few and far in between. Ironically...Tim won any way.

PAC was getting frustrated in that fight...he gets frustrated whenever his opponents begin to run vs fight. And with Tim.....he wasn't going to fight even if they had his wife hostage.

Nothing was easy for Tim that night. PAC was more accurate, inflicted more damage and was busier. The only thing Tim dominated in was in the jab category....which he threw more, landed less and was his weapon of choice. Tim was both lucky and unlucky to be given that decision.

 

Post a gif of a clean shot Trout landed on Cotto, I'll wait.....



If anything that brutal beating Mayweather put on Cotto, took years off of Coto's career like I suspected

 

money tenderized cotto for trout. trout should be thankful

 

This.................


After seeing Cotto stumble to his locker room after the Floyd fight, and see him bruised and lumped up, I knew that he wouldn't be the same fighter anymore

Cotto couldn't even pull the trigger anymore, he didnt even want to jab:verysad

 

I just think Trout was a bigger, longer and taller fighter with a southpaw stance that Cotto wasn't prepared for. Cotto has some trouble with southpaws. Miguel is a blown up Welter Weight who was facing a naturally bigger man who could take Cotto's best shots. His inability to make the fight on the inside made his efforts worth very little.

He was essentially fighting Trouts fight all night and didn't have any answers to change at what distance the fight was being fought. If Cotto held a speed advantage he might have been able to knock out a few corners but he might have been even a little slower than Austin that night.

 

Bama, just stop - anyone claiming BRadley gave Pacquiao a clinic should not be posting in a boxing forum

To others, Mayweather did nothing to Cotto, Cotto was a well cherry picked shot fighter. Margarito and then Pacquiao gave Cotto the batterings he never recovered from. He was slow, old, battle-weary so Mayweather lapped up that fight. You just have to look at the first 5-6 rounds to see how reluctant Cotto was to even throw a punch - only after he realised he was looking stupid and that Mayweather just backs off, then he got a bit brave...

Mayweather did jack to Cotto apart from a good right in the 12th round that Cotto left himself wide open to because he was looking for the KO. Other than that, it was a jab, run, jab, run, jab, right, run and repeat from Mayweather