Has cotto's loss to trout cost him a place at the HOF?

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  1. mr fists

    mr fists Active Member Full Member

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    Before the trout fight, i would have said cotto was a borderline case. He's lost to the best fighters he'd faced (with the losses to margarito and pac being kind of controversial, and giving mayweather a hard fight) but has wins over the likes of mosley, judah, clottey, etc. I think a strong run at 154 would have been enough to see him over the line, but after his defeat i don't see it happening and i dont believe we will see cotto competing at the top level again. Fact is, the first top, genuine 154 pounder he faced beat him convincingly and it's going to be downhill from here. I doubt miguel can make 147 again, so basically he's stuck in a division where he doesn't have the tools to compete with the best guys. His career at the top is done, and it's not enough for Castanota imo.

    Then again, guys like Barry McGuigan are in there, so who knows?
     
  2. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    lol Cotto is getting into the HOF head first :lol::lol:
     
  3. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was just about to make this thread, so true though, it almost made my stomach cringe that people were calling Cotto a future HOF all of a sudden after, getting his ass whipped by Floyd in a one sided beating, it is what it is though. I was rooting for Cotto this time, his legacy needed this win, and he came up short


    I'm still scratching my head on what Cotto was thinking fighting a tall rangy undeafeated south paw, when he knows he posses no right hand
     
  4. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A couple of losses is no big deal.At least Cotto is willing to fight all comers.Cotto is a sure fire HOF,first ballot.:good
     
  5. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Cotto will get in NP.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hell no.

    It's just cost Canelo a big-money fight with him.
     
  7. mr fists

    mr fists Active Member Full Member

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    I feel its important to give cotto credit for fighting trout in the first place, a guy who was a terrible style match up for him and had no name whatsoever. But considering a blockbuster bout with alvarez was right around the corner, it was a pretty stupid career move.
     
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  9. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    No, losing to Trout has no bearing on his hall of fame status, which he attained prior to the loss. It's widely accepted that Cotto fell a ways short of being one of history's greats, but he was an amateur stand-out, put together a very nice resume (one of the best of the last decade) spanning three weight divisions, showed grit and wonderful heart to go along with his fan-friendly skillful style, was one of the biggest draws in the sport for the better part of the decade, and a Madison Square Garden legend to boot.

    Even if he loses a few more against sub-par competition - he's past it, anyways - and will get into Canastota. It'll definitely be well deserved.
     
  10. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you gonna act like he didn't have Pacquaio on a platter just waiting on him to say yes, and don't bring up that catchweight argument, because nobdy said **** when his team strong armed Magarito team in the rematch to taking a catchweight also, shitttttt he wanted the fight to be@ 150 the same 150 he didn't want for Manny. The truth is Cotto took on Trout because he felt it would be an easy victory he could get a strap from and regain some of his luster, it was clear he had no strategy once he got in the ring and started getting hit, he expected it to be easy..........The truth is he cherry picked Trout, you dont get respect for that





    I don't know about Cotto, he's hard to read, and his career has been hard to read, he gets gift from Clottley and Mosley, and needed fouls to beat Judah, but he has these strches were he's a different fighter, like the first 4 rounds of Pacquaio fight, and rounds 6 & 8 of the Mayweather fight. I want to like him, he seems like a genuine dude, but he flips the coin and acts like a chump when he gets his ass whipped. you never know what you gonna get with Cotto
     
  11. JMP

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    Clottey and Mosley weren't gifts. They were legitimately close fights that could've gone either way. Cotto could've easily won 6 rounds off of inactive Clottey, which would've given him the first by a point - and many had it this way. Many also had Cotto beating Mosley about 7-5ish. I'd say most did, actually.

    With regard to him being a different fighter in stretches, I think that boils down to his stamina and durability. I think he knows he's not too great in either category, so he fights accordingly and retreats when he feels it's necessary for his survival. Stamina is one of the big things that held him back, among others of course.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    If losses erase wins then they're going to start removing them too. :lol: Don't let your knees jerk too harshly. They'll pop. You'll get the arthritis.
     
  13. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe gifts were harsh words on my part, I had the Mosley fight 7-5 for Cotto too LMAO, Im just upset with Cotto right now, every time I root for him he gets his ass whipped, I just cant understand his train of thinking all around, in the ring and out


    Even on saturday, Trout was a sitting duck for the right and even stunned him once with it, but he rathers throws out of position left hooks, when he was right in distance to land that right plenty of times
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  14. Mrtibbs

    Mrtibbs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has to IMO.

    Just look at his resume.

    He ducks no challenge.
     
  15. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He damn sure ducked a 2nd Pacquaio fight to fight the easiest opponent available, then ****ing around and losing:patsch