Is Peter Quillin even a top 10 MW????

Quillin would beat the shut out of Chavez. :rofl

Chavez was losing Andy Lee before overpowering him because he's a ****ing cruiserweight.


What's somebody without a jab who couldn't keep Zbik and Rubio going to do to someone like Quillin but provide target practice or his torpedo fists.


Ndam would school the **** out of fat boy bum pot head scrub Chavez.:rofl

 

No surprise a young Black fighter who does nothing but knock people out and have exciting fights being hated on by ESB.


Either they win lopsided decisions and be called boring or win close fights with multiple knockdown and be called a bum.


Never ends.atsch

 

I didn't see the N'Jikam that way at all.

Yes, N'Jikam won a lot of rounds on points, mostly with late-round flurrys, but he wasn't doing any damage.

It seemed to me that Quillin's game plan, going it, was to take his time & go for the KO. N'Jikam is REALLY fast, so maybe he figured he'd just eat a lot of light punches, and wait for the opening. Well, if that's what his plan was, it sure worked.

- And he didn't look gassed. He reminded me a lot of Golovkin, (in other fights as well) just conseeving energy & stalking, waiting for the right moment. Granted GGG has better defense. I think Quillin needs to jab more, and DEFINITELY needs to develop better head movement, but I like his style and def consider him (just barely) top-10 right now.

- Though I can see the argument against this as well.

 

Technically speaking he has the better win. But the good fighters dont want to fight GGG because they know he would crush them.

 

Are you kidding me? He beat N'Dam, A clear top 10 fighter, McEwan before who was a top 20-30 at the time.

Maybe Top 5 would be a better question. Quillin is somewhere in 4-6 imo.

 

Chavez would overpower Quillin as well because, as you said, he's a ****ing cruiserweight. Quillin doesn't have great defense, and Chavez already ate everything Sergio could throw at him for 12 rounds and was never close to going down even once. Quillin wouldn't be able to hurt him, and he'd get ground down in close range. It ain't Quillin's game to box and move laterally. He comes forward without any real head movement, and against a bigger, stronger guy like Chavez, it'd cost him. I'd happily take a ban bet with you on that matter if they ever fight.

 

Youre exaggerating. And even if he did lose every round but the 10-7 one. Its still a better win than anything on fat boys resume. Ndam would school the **** outta Chavez. And all fat boy Chavez would be able to do against Quillin is wobble towards him as Quillin drops bombs on his no defense having ass.

we haven't seen slow ass Golovkin against a decent middleweight to decide what he'd do against any of the champs.

Please tell me besides busting up Andy Lee who has Chavez "bust up" at middleweight?

Do you honestly believe that Rubio and Zbik bring more to the equation that Quillin?

Sergio is a tiny middleweight who fought the majority of his career at 154 and he still had Freddie close to stopping the fight fat boy was taking such a beating.

You really think fat boy is gonna walk through Quillins punches? You really think Martinez hits as hard as Quillin whos out evey fighter hes fought on his ass or kod? Really my dude? Really? You bought that Chavez hype machine that much? Being protected against feather fisted fighter half of which he couldn't ko?

Sorry but no. Quillin is very much a counter puncher who likes to fight in range. . Against Ndam for the majority of the fight he was the stalker waiting to land his left hook and Overhand right over Ndams jab.

Very little of Quillins game is about moving. His game is about placin powerful counter punches wih precision. Fat boy would be a sittin duck.

Oh hell gladly. I doubt GBP does it anytime soon theyre gonna milk that hype train for all its worth

 

Sergio hits VERY hard. He's probably the second hardest puncher at 160 after Golovkin himself. He's stopped almost everyone he's fought there except for Pavlik and Chavez Jr. Chavez tanking all of his shots is impressive regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

We're arguing about H2H and not resume-wise. The N'Dam win is a better win than anything Chavez has done, I'll give you that, but physically, Chavez is way bigger and stronger, and Quillin trying to walk him down and look for countering chances like he did for parts of the NDam fight would be suicidal against "Fat Boy." There were also big chunks of the fight with N'Dam where he just backpedaled and covered up along the ropes trying to do a bootleg Floyd shoulder roll impersonation that didn't work so well. He was just getting hit, and he wasn't countering all that effectively off the ropes either. Luckily for him, N'Dam isn't a huge MW and he doesn't possess a lot of power either. Chavez has decent accumulative power and is ****ing huge. If he tries lying on the ropes with Chavez or walking him down, neither of those end well for him. The best approach would be to keep him in the center of the ring and box at long range.

From what we've seen of Chavez so far, he's a sitting duck in a big ring against a good boxer/counterpuncher who keeps the fight at range, like what Martinez did. Quillin has never shown a proclivity to do that. It's not in his skillset. Which sucks for him, because that's the best way to beat Jr. He doesn't have the jab or the straight right to control Jr. and keep him at bay to set up his left hooks or overhand rights. "Fat Boy" would have much less trouble closing the distance on Quillin than he did on Martinez. And when he gets in close on Quillin or got him on the ropes...well, that doesn't end well for Quillin.

Also, since you **** on Golovkin earlier, if he was such a slow-ass bum as you implied earlier, how come Quillin declined the chance to fight GGG on HBO after Pirog got injured? If your boy was as great as you say he is, he would have leaped at the chance to beat Golovkin and get the HBO exposure that comes with it. But he didn't. He's staying the **** away from him on Showtime for a reason. It looks like GBP already has a good career plan for Quillin fighting a bunch of soft opponents in Barclay's on Showtime.

As i've said, Quillin is a top 10 Middleweight, but he is overrated and not a future undisputed/lineal champ as many have hyped him up to be.

 

of course he is,really?

 

No obviously but why no mention of Winky implying that Quillin is a drug cheat? Winky paid for the testing and after they took their samples Golden Boy cancelled the testing and desoryed the samples even though it violates the contract and USADA's own protocols.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/other-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one

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Quillen is going to be a major competitor in the middleweight division. I'm looking forward to buying his fights. His last fight against an undefeated world champion was not the prettiest. And I'm sure he will look better when he kills Taylor in Feb.

 

- That's basically what I said as well.

Again, though, Quillin would do well to get his jab & head movement going, asap, because once he steps up they could be serious weaknesses.

 

First off what ranked fighters had Golovkin stopped in brutal fashion to get the tag as hardest hitter? Sparring lol? Did you see his fight with Kassim the dream?


Secondly no, calling Martinez the 2nd hardest puncher is like believing Pacquiao hits harder than Mosley. Sergio beats people up. His stoppages are from accumulation and speed. Before Sergio moved to middleweight his ko percentage was barely above 50.


Thirdly, counter punchers who have huge power fm have always done well against crude swarmers.

Fourthly you overestimate Fat boys strength. Fat boy couldnt do one push up lol. Quillin is far stronger than him. Only fighter fat boy has ever bullied is skinny legged Andy Lee, hell lil ass Martinez was standing and trading with him with a shattered knee lol

An finally instead of writing a long witty retort, lets look at the facts to see who truly had the power in the middleweight division.


"Fat Boy" Chavez last 7 opponents

Martinez - L
Lee - TKO W
Rubio - UD
Manfredo Jr - TKO
Sabastian Zbik - MD
Billy Lyle - UD
John Duddy - UD


Peter "fat boy killer" Quillin

Ndam - UD (NDam down multiple times)
Wright - UD (Winky down once)
McEwan - TKO
Lehoiller - TKO
Brinkley - TKO
Sharpe - TKO
Discarding - TKO


Trust me I would love nothing more than for Chavez to fight Quillin. Seeing Quillin bash this overrated chump up would be a true treat no pun intended.

 

That's what I wanna see. Him fight a fighter with a good jab. Winky was able to ring his face up with the jab and thats one thing inexperienced fighters struggle with the most.

Its why im slightly intrigued about the Taylor fight. Because Taylor had one of the best jabs in the biz before he went downhill.

Wouldve preferred Pavlik though

 

yes he is!!!