I like Barrera, BUT

barrera was and always will be a warrior of the highest degree..

the rematch wasent even ******ted... its not like pac knocked him out in round 1 or 2 by a lucky punch,.. he punished him for the whole fight

barrera knew he was done and went for a paycheaque.. look at morales now he rocks up he taunts he shows the machismo but just like any aging fighter STRUGGLES TO PULL THE TRIGGER

 

im the biggest barrera fan there is bro, but i aient going to say barrera was shot in the first fight, he wasent at his best you are correct but styles make fights and manny gave him fits..

there is a slim chance barrera could beat pacquiao at that time. it would take the perfect executed planned style for the fighter just like he did against hamed.. i personally think barrera has that ability (he is an ATG)

but you chuck barrera in with pacquiao and 8 times out of 10 pac wins

 

^ pretty much this

i think the 1st fight was a close but clear victory for barrera , 2nd was a close but clear for morales 3rd was a close but clear for barrera

 

If ever the opposite was more true.

Back to the original post, people seem to think because guys like Barrera and Morales loved to slug it out that somehow they can bring that attitude to every fight and make it a war regardless of the opponent but it doesn't work that way, in the 2nd fight Barrera tried his best to use his boxing skills and I thought he did ok but in the end a younger more explosive Pacquiao who had a stylistic advantage (as he proved in the first fight) was just too much for Barrera. There was nothing look down on in Barrera's performance.

 

Barrera was robbed against Marquez and Morales the first time.

 

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Agreed Nady saved Marquez ass !!In the trilogy they finally got it right thought MAB 2-1 for Barrera against the great Morales .

 

Great fighter, I wouldn't say he was past his best in the first but was definitely over the hill in the second.

 

In the rematch there were some exchanges MAB got the better of Manny, especially the first rounds. Manny's facial expression was like WTF? is going on, how did he just do that? But it was obvious MAB couldn't sustain the fast pace of Pacman. Fought much smarter fight, but physically just couldn't hang anymore. His battles vs Morales were all too close too call anyone could have it 2-1 for Morales.

 

I like Barrera and Morales but Marquez is better than both of them.

 

Marco unknowingly ran into a buzz-saw in 2003. He was well beaten, and there's really not a lot else he could have done on the night.

As far as the second fight goes, I find it difficult to criticize Marco's approach. He wasn't getting any younger and he surely knew that he wasn't going to win in a firefight against the faster, younger, and more powerful Manny Pacquiao. With that in mind, he tried to outbox the Filipino, but he just wasn't landing with enough regularity to win rounds. I wouldn't go as far to say that he was simply running away from his opponent, and I don't think Marco is the kind of character to have ever turned up just for a pay day. I don't believe that.

Styles make fights. It's a cliche, but it's true. I tend to take a lot more into account than simply evaluating how each fighter fared against Manny Pacquiao when comparing the three Mexicans. For instance, Marco's fights with Morales alone pretty much destroys the notion that the two weren't on the same level. They clearly were. Even Marco's fight with Marquez was extremely competitive, even if Barrera was arguably past his best by 07.

It's obviously disappointing as a Barrera fan to watch the man get steamrolled, but it doesn't undo all of the wonderful nights he had in his accomplished Boxing career. One fight is not the difference.

I pretty much feel the same way about the first two fights, Bernie. Neither fight was a robbery in my estimation, with both men having legitimate cases for victory on both occasions. Why emotionally charged Boxing fans insist on one extreme or the other is beyond me. Two very close fights for different reasons.

 

Based on what ? 3 close fights with Pacquio ?

 

Welcome back, Addie. :happy

Your long absence from ESB had us all worried and thinking if Winona had raped, dumped, and left you for dead or somethin... :yep

 

Thanks Spitfire. :good

And raped by Winona Ryder, you say? I could be so lucky. Nah, I was just banned from the website for a long time. Truth be told, I've not been following Boxing as closely as I should these last 6-7 months. I have a lot to catch up on.

 

Why were you banned??