Boxing Scoring FAQ and Discussion

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Juiceboxbiotch, Nov 27, 2012.


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  1. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    Thanks!
    Its a good question. Clean punching isn't EVERYTHING. N'Dam had clean punching going for him in that round but Quillin had ring generalship, some clean punching of his own and 2 knockdowns. Quillin might have been outlanded in the round but was he dominated? I'm going 10-7.

    :think
    I don't think there is enough info here.. who is being more aggressive? Who's style is more effective in the round? Sounds like a round for Fighter A just based on what you said but there are a bunch of other things going on that need to be taken into consideration.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Dec 2, 2012
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I scored it 10-8 to holy. Mm was on top aside from the knockdown but to negate a knockdown a real beating has to be issued imo.

    Consequently I feel holy won the fight by 1 point.
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 2, 2012
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  3. Kurushi

    Kurushi Active Member Full Member

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    This is a really useful resource. Thank you.
     
    Kurushi, Dec 6, 2012
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  4. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've seen plenty of fights were a fighter adapts is clearly winning, landing more being hit less, but that fact that 'he isn't his normal self' is held against him by both judges and fans.
     
    Windigo, Dec 6, 2012
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  5. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    To say you've seen plenty of fights where judges have held that against a fighter is to say you've heard plenty of interviews with judges after these fights defending their scorecards. :think I sure haven't.

    I think we can agree that holding the past against a fighter while judging a fight is not the right way to go. The problem is that I've only heard of one instance where a judge mentioned this and that was the Pacquiao - Bradley fight (can't remember exactly which judge it was). And to be honest, I think criticizing a judge in this way is to take his comments out of context. In my opinion, it didn't mean he was holding Pacquiao accountable for "not being his normal self." It sounded like more of an observation than anything else, he did comment on what Pacquiao did wrong to lose the fight in his eyes before making the "normal self" comment. All that being said, I didn't agree with the judges scorecards at all for that fight.

    I don't want to turn this discussion into an outrage thread about Pacquiao vs. Bradley though. I think most fans and judges will agree with you on this.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Dec 6, 2012
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  6. The...Spectator

    The...Spectator New Member Full Member

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    yes most judges give the round to the more aggressive fighter,for his the one making the fight happen,most fight fans also decide on the Winner by the more aggressor. but their are so many skilled counter punchers around the world,that do make the judging of fights very difficult hence the controversy in some decisions
     
    The...Spectator, Dec 11, 2012
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  7. Redwood

    Redwood Active Member Full Member

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    The best example I can think of for defense being overlooked in the official scoring is the Abril vs Rios fight, Abril DOMINATED with his defense and ring generalship, and I think he even outlanded Rios, yet he STILL lost the decision. Too many judges seem to base their scoring on clean punches landed ONLY, fighters with elite boxing skills have NOT gotten their just rewards in the past year or so (JMM vs Pac 3, Campillo, Abril).
     
    Redwood, Dec 13, 2012
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A pet peeve of mine.
     
    IntentionalButt, Dec 13, 2012
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  9. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that you have to asses the damage done too. If a fighter was dropped two times he ought to take more damage than the other fighter. I would score the round 10-7.
     
    Leonit, Dec 20, 2012
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  10. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was an example of RD-robbery decision. Don't lose your time to go into the details
     
    Leonit, Dec 20, 2012
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  11. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Alright, lets cut to the chase on professional judging. To me the most controversial point in judging is affective aggressiveness. This to me is too subjective and unfairly evaluated. So, why don't they just say aggressiveness is rewarded. This I feel will make boxing matches better. Amateurs are changing their scoring rules to better the sport, so can the professionals. What will it take?
     
    BlueBottle, Dec 24, 2012
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  12. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    It will take everyone agreeing on a set of rules, which in pro boxing, is a once in a lifetime achievement (Unified Rules of the Associated Boxing Commissions).

    On the point of effective aggressiveness, you'll have lots of people agreeing with you including myself.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Dec 26, 2012
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  13. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  14. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok. I got one for ye.

    A discussion I had a long time ago.

    Glass Joe is dominating a round. I mean, beats Don Flamenco about the head and body with untethered ferocity. His combos are relentless and devastating, his timing, flawless. Although no KD's are recorded, Flamenco is unsteady, ready to go. The ref is hawking, ready to stop it. A no doubter 10-8 round due to the sustained, one sided beating.

    Until.....


    At 2:56 of the round, Glass Joe gets caught with a defensively thrown left hook as he loads up for a right hook of his own. It lands, not really a big shot, but it lands solidly enough in that it throws him off balance; his glove touches the canvas. The bell rings.

    How do you score it?
     
    des3995, Dec 31, 2012
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  15. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    10-9 Don Flamenco. The (technical) knockdown wins Flamenco the round, but because he was dominated for the rest of the round, he doesn't get the extra point. As strange as it may sound, its the correct way to score such a round.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Dec 31, 2012
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