Either Pac's chin is gone or Marquez is now a superhuman puncher

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  1. Jak Boxer

    Jak Boxer Active Member Full Member

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    Someone explain to me how a guy who's never been known as a big puncher drops and KTFO a granite chin opponent... namely PACQUIAO?

    Pac has taken those same shots countless times before from Marquez (in fact in the 3rd fight he got caught with the same shots and barely blinked) and against much bigger men, and has never come close to being hurt like that.

    My only explanation is pacs chin has deteriorated BADLY or Marquez has suddenly turned into a huge puncher

    Not throwing any accusations out there ... but it's just mind boggling. Maybe all of the wars and age has finally taken it's toll on Manny.




    Either way, what a ****ing amazing fight. These two are incredible. Such warriors , so much heart. This will easily go down as one of the greatest rivalries ever.





    I do hope Pacquiao retires now - he's so far past it it's not even funny and if he's getting dropped by Marquez it's time to call it quits. He had an amazing career, and he's got a lot of things to do outside of boxing, there's no reason to go down this path which I think is only gonna go downhill.

    A 5th fight would just be more of the same - maybe Marquez gets knocked out next time; either way I don't think it proves anything. They've they both made their points.


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  2. Boxed Ears

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    1. Both guys have been talking about retirement for years now for a reason. They've both had a hell of a lot of wear and tear. Pacquiao's been hit quite a bit more, due to his style but they've both been through the ringer.
    2. Marquez has always been able to hit.
    3. When two elite fighters who can both punch face each other four times, you figure at least once someone will get the big one through that can end it. This was that Walcott/Charles type shot where it finally lands right and that's it.
     
  3. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac has been K.O'd twice before, he ran face first into a monster right hook and got flattened.
     
  4. Smokin' Joe

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    He got caught by two of the most perfect, flushest punches he's ever been hit by. Not many fighters at 147, or even maybe 154 would have stayed on their feet after those.

    Glad he's ok, was worried for him.
     
  5. Jak Boxer

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    He's taken those same shots before and soaked them up, now all of sudden Marquez drops him and KTFO with two right hands? It's hard to make sense out of that.
     
  6. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    maybe because pacquiao is declining... he was chinny at the beggining of his career. he hits his prime years and suddenly granite level chinned

    its only natural for him to loose it in his later years
     
  7. dealt_with

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    It's called strength and conditioning, he developed his power. Boxing trainers like to claim that you're born with power but that's old school hocus pocus. Hopefully more boxers smarten up and realise the importance of proper periodised strength and conditioning.
     
  8. TheMoneyTeam1

    TheMoneyTeam1 Picking cherries Full Member

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    Already looking for excuses. He got KTFO deal with it. Not the first time. First time was by a jab at 105lbs? LOL
     
  9. Barrera

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    maybe because pacquiao is declining... he was chinny at the beggining of his career. he hits his prime years and suddenly granite level chinned

    its only natural for him to loose it in his later years
     
  10. Jak Boxer

    Jak Boxer Active Member Full Member

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    He's taken those same shots before and soaked them up, now all of sudden Marquez drops him and KTFO with two right hands? It's hard to make sense out of that.
     
  11. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought it was the first KD in which Manny was moving backwards hold alot about Marquez punching power.
     
  12. dealt_with

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    It's called strength and conditioning, he developed his power. Boxing trainers like to claim that you're born with power but that's old school hocus pocus. Hopefully more boxers smarten up and realise the importance of proper periodised strength and conditioning.
     
  13. Forza

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    almost anyone under 160lbs would have been K.O'd by that punch
     
  14. Awatkins73

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    idk, Marquez seems to have one puch power now...Is that possible at 39 after not having it before? Before he was more of an accumilation puncher, right?
     
  15. Elite

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    They were perfectly well placed shots. I agree with Pac that he did get careless in the 5th and I figured if he kept charging in like he was doing to Marquez he was gonna get hit with a big punch and well it happen. I like Pac and have always enjoyed his fights, but a flash ko is never good for a boxer and should consider retiring.