Marquez' all-time Mexico status/Marquez' next move

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by dmille, Dec 9, 2012.


  1. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    At 39, JMM is another ageless wonder. He has transcended all of his contemporaries - such as MAB, Morales, Medina, etc. He is now IMO one of the Mexico's all-time top ten fighters. In no particular order:

    Ricardo Lopez
    Miguel Canto
    Ruben Olivares
    Jose Beccerra
    Carlos Zarate
    Salvador Sanchez
    Vicente Saldivar
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Pipino Cuevas
    Juan Manuel Marquez

    Now what's next?
    1) NO Mayweather rematch.
    2) NO Manny fifth fight.
    3) Stay at 140.
    4) Fight a couple of solid pretenders to keep busy.
    4) Fight Danny Garcia in Mexico City for HUGE payday!
    5) Retire
     
  2. Doc

    Doc Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Bradley, or Danny Garcia... Rios shouldnt get the fight, doesn't even have a belt, and still pissed about the cuban fight.
     
  3. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    But the biggest payoff would come from a showdown in MC. No way Bradley would fight him there. Garcia on the other hand probably would agree to.
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    1. Sanchez (Gomez, Nelson)
    2. Chavez (Taylor, Camacho)
    3. Marquez (Beat Pacquiao 3 outta 4 times and most convincing win to date between them)
    4. Saldivar (Laguna, Ramos)
    5. Olivarez (Chacon, Rose, Castillo)

    I think Jmm has no time to waste against fighters not on Manny's level. Both Jmm and Manny deserve a 5th fight against each other and then retire. The $$$ is there, but no more crumbs for Marquez he deserves at least $10-15 million per fight. If not Manny, then Bradley or Garcia. He shouldnt fight for more than 2 fights tops. He reached his goal of clearly beating Pacman it wont matter if Pacman avenges his loss you can't for more from a 39 yr old dynamo.
     
  5. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Top 5. IMO

    Chavez
    Saldivar
    Sanchez
    Olivares
    Marquez


    Morales
    Barrera
     
  6. SouthChicagoRay

    SouthChicagoRay Active Member Full Member

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    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Salvador Sanchez
    3. Carlos Zarate
    4. Finito Lopez
    5. Ruben Olivares
    6. Vicente Saldivar
    7. Jose Napoles *Cuban born*
    8. Erik Morales
    9. Juan Manuel Marquez
    10. Marco Antonio Barrera
     
  7. SouthChicagoRay

    SouthChicagoRay Active Member Full Member

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    whats next, retirement to end an amazing career on the most incredible victory of his life. I have a feeling that won't happen. If it doesn't, Mayweather at 147 and call it a day regardless of the outcome.
     
  8. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    Napoles doesn't belong. Miguel Canto deserves to be rated before either MAB or Erik.
     
  9. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    JMM deserves a shot at his 5th world title.
    Both Bradley & JMM deserve the payday that came with beating Manny.

    Now Arum!!! **** you & pay them.
    The Manny "Methos" is ova!

    Does Bobby remember when he promised them both shots @Pac to sign with his company??
     
  10. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    On resume alone or skills?
    On resume..
    1. Salvador Sanchez
    2. JMM
    3. Erik Morales
    4. Chavez/Barrera
    5. Lopez

    On Skills
    1. Ricardo Lopez
    2. Marquez
    3. Chavez
    4. Sanchez
    5. Barrera/Morales
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't think we could really disagree more when it comes to rating these guys' abilities, Dan.

    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Salvador Sanchez
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Erik Morales
     
  12. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    rating ties are a cop-out...
     
  13. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    You think all these people have more skills than Ricardo Lopez? Sanchez was still young when he died, so I don't really rate his skills too highly. But even though Lopez's was in a weight class which all the fighters had the body of a 9 year old boy.. you can't deny his skills..
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Apologies. I forgot to list Ricardo Lopez. He was at tremendous talent, granted, it's just a shame he didn't move up to Light Flyweight whilst both Carbajal and Gonzalez were still campaigning. We could have seen some competitive fights.
     
  15. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    finito not on your top 5? hmmm:think