Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Brutal KO losses? Vlad was never unconscious. He was never unable to get to his feet. There was nothing brutal about the Puritty loss, if anything it was a premature stoppage. And Vlad did avenge the loss to Brewster. Sanders was by far his worst loss but Sanders was a big, hard-hitting southpaw with fast hands.

 

I didn't say he had to beat a great. Nobody on his CV is even close to HOF worthy. He has NEVER been proven at elite level, ever. To argure against this fact makes you look foolish.

He dominated against over 40's , washed up bottom feeders , it doesn't matter.

Im telling it how it is. You are naive, uneducated or in denial.

 

Watch the fights again...Wlad went down in sections, falling all over the ring looking as if he was crying for his mommy. For Gods sake he was koed and looked as if he wanted to quit against Ross Purity..a complete bum.

 

It was meant for Lufcrazy.

 

No,

 

Old cruiserweight runts with shaky chins. This while wearing 6 ounce gloves. Can you imagine what would happen to Marcy Anna's little head if Vlad dropped the bomb on him wearing 6 ounce gloves?

 

Horse****. Haye, Chambers, Peter, Chagaev, Byrd, etc. were in their primes and they were not bottom feeders by any means.

 

So there's no difference to you between gassing and being knocked unconscious?

 

Guys, about their respective height and reach...one must remember that Tyson in terms of dimensions was barely bigger than Rocky, standing a listed (and disputed) 5'11" with a 72" reach, which when you consider is measured from wingtip to wingtip, with Tyson being a little broader around the shoulders than Rocky, is not significantly more than Marciano's 67". It's actually quite surprising how insignificant that 5" really is, all things considered.
Tyson never had a problem reaching guys 6'5", 6'6" or whatever.

Of course, Tyson and Rocky have completely different physical characteristics and different styles so I'm not saying that Marciano would be as effective against huge guys, but I am suggesting that it's not as if Rocky literally could not reach Wlad's chin.

 

Marciano doesn't have the foot speed and explosiveness. He doesn't have a Michael Jordan-like first step to be able to time Vlad and jump inside on him. Tyson wasn't a slow-rolling pressure fighter like Marciano.

And stop trying to minimize the size difference between Marciano and Tyson. Their height and reach might have been similar but that's about it. Tyson was more heavily muscled, while being faster than Marciano. Tyson was a solid 215-220 at 22 years old. Marciano actually weighed in under 180 several times at 25-26.

 

I like Bernard Hopkins' shot at beating Rocky more than Rocky's shot at beating Wlad.

 

Some excellent arguments made here, but also a lot of pointless dickwaving. Guys, if you are seriously making the argument that either Marciano or Wlad Klitschko are not greats, you need to take up knitting instead.

Honestly, I believe that this fight would come down to what would happen in the later rounds. The question would simply be: after Marciano had been receiving Klitschko's jab for ten rounds, and being leaned on for ten rounds ... and after Wlad had been worked over on the inside by Rocky for that long: who would have the most heart? Who would have enough gas in reserve? Not saying that Wlad doesn't have any heart, because he does - he was still trying to get up and fight after the fourth Sanders knockdown - but I think ROcky would always have more guts than Wlad and take it late via stoppage or points.

But, that assumes, of course, that he would have landed his fair share of shots. Its possible as well, that Klitschko jabs him, then ties him up instantly and leans on him over and over, without taking much damage from Marciano while exhausting the Rock in the process. In which case, Marciano loses to a late stoppage or points.

I don't believe an early stoppage is on the cards at all, and if there was one, it would be Marciano getting lucky and catching Wlad cold early.

There's imho, no real way to determine how such a style-dependent clash would go down without watching it.

2 cents ...

 

No ****, Sherlock. I said as much already, but didn't elaborate because the differences between the two is painfully obvious.
But people do get hung up on dimensions, not only in this matchup but nearly all matchups.

I have already made my pick and will stick to it. But Rocky could reach Wlad's chin, even though he most likely wouldn't, or not enought to sway things. That was the only point I was trying to make. Physically, it's possible. That's it.

 

Yeah, unfortunately that's true. Internet arguments are often really nothing more than games of one-upmanship between posters, with neither side willing to concede an inch for fear of losing face.

I love Rocky Marciano...one of my all-time faves, but for me personally this fight is a bridge too far for him. I don't mind admitting that. His legacy is secure, and he will always be a much-respectd and admired ATG, regardless of what Wladimir does.
Silly little internet arguments and petty personal lists don't and won't change that.

 

They are nobody's at HW and will never leave a mark on the scene. Manny himself said they had no real skill. You fail.