Were we too hard on big larry olubamiwo?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by lirva, Dec 9, 2012.


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  1. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hear me out

    I was one of the first to call him a cheating c*nt etc etc

    However, lets look at boxing now as a whole.

    First we have absolutely **** poor testing. Even Olubamiwo can load up with as much PED as he wants and get away with it for many fights. It's not hard to figure out what won't come up in a urine test and that is literally free to use to all boxers. Lance Armstrong said it best, he used because other people were using and had that edge over him.

    Boxing is a life or death sport. You step into the ring, you may not step out of the ring. Your life is at risk. These guys have families to support, kids they love etc. If they believe their opponent has PEDs in his system, they are not going to risk losing to a guy juiced up and possibly getting hurt and not being able to provide for their kids. Even if they don't think the guy is juicing, getting that advantage over him is a means to putting food on the table and making your kids life easier. Its a no brainer for MANY a fighter out there.

    We had suspicions about Pac
    Marquez just looked huge and punched like a middleweight last night
    Berto
    James Toney
    Guerrero
    Maccarinelli
    Dillian White
    Roy jones
    Shane Mosley
    antonio tarver
    Chavez jr
    Fernando Vargas
    Tommy Morrison (admitted using)
    Ali Funeka
    Joan Guzman
    Frans Botha
    Orlando Salido


    I could go on here.

    Larry is a cheater, but so are so many other fighters. I believe Larry was levelling the playing field and I believe boxing is akin to bodybuilding in that it is a high level juicing competition.

    It's going to get even worse after last night. The whole world watched a potentially juiced Marquez dispose of Pac brutally. A lot of boxers will want to know what he is on and will want to hire the convicted PED cheat conditioner he has taken on.

    To summarize, I apologise to larry olubamiwo for being a bit too harsh on him
     
    lirva, Dec 9, 2012
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  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    There guys in that list who mistakenly took the wrong supplement or tested positive via contamination

    Larry knowingly took a cocktail of illegal PEDs for years & was still ****
     
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  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only athletes who get caught that I have sympathy for are the ones who are mislead by their coaches. If a cheating coach says "take this, it's completely legal" and it turns out not to be, the fighter or athlete will have had his career ruined because he put trust in someone. Those people, I feel for. Guys like Olubamiwo, who purposefully cheat, are disgraces who deserve their bans.
     
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  4. B.A

    B.A Member Full Member

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    No
     
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  5. wallworkjake123

    wallworkjake123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why's Guerrero on the list? He hasn't cheated as far as I know. I'm not saying I think Marquez is on PEDS, be we have every right to be suspicous about him.
     
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  6. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Also if Big Enzo took performing enhancing drugs, his shitness must have been a unusual side effect, the kind that is in the small print that nobody bothers to read.
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  7. glue glove

    glue glove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Surprised it took them so long to get Larry, he had a body of a comic book character!
     
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  8. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

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    Trying to "level up the playing field" is a poor excuse for a PED cheat in my opinion. No boxer needs to juice up just so he can beat another juiced up fighter in order to feed his family. Any fighter who can't put food on the table without cheating should give up boxing and stack supermarket shelves instead.

    I also don't have much sympathy for fighters who make a so called "genuine mistake", and get caught taking an illegal supplement, whether given to them by their trainer or otherwise. Any pro athlete knows a whole load of stuff is banned, and they must know it's their own responsibility to make sure they stay clean.

    Pleading ignorance, like claiming to not know how to pronounce the name of the banned substance is pathetic, so is trying to mitigate the offence by saying things like "It's the same stuff Enzo got done for".
     
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  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Olubamiwo is proof positive that taking roids in boxing, A, won't get you that far without ability and, B, you will be caught. It was pretty obvious he was juiced even without a test.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Stopped in 1 by McDermott :lol:
     
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  11. Klaunstance

    Klaunstance Groovin a Riff Full Member

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    HE DID, lets have a look at that once again.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWxOf0-mGI[/ame]
     
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  12. Alexandra park

    Alexandra park Active Member Full Member

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    Not sure whos worse.... Freddy or larry. Sounds like a comedy sketch
     
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  13. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was this something recent? I thought Armstrong had always denied using.
     
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  14. Klaunstance

    Klaunstance Groovin a Riff Full Member

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    Larry's mates

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpbIvANZ44Q[/ame]
     
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  15. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes Armstrong was caught and stripped of every title he has ever won. He admitted using all along
     
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