After Pac-JMM IV, Here Is Why Arum Will NEVER Make Pac-Mayweather

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It doesn't seem like it, but Bob Arum just got the final "screw you" he always wanted with Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

    How can that be, when Manny Pacquiao just lost by KO?

    Here's how: Because someone else had the guts to take on Pacquiao, without special drug testing, and beat him cleanly and beat him by out-punching him

    This devastates Mayweather's legacy, in a way that won't be clear for some time. JMM just wrecked the whole Mayweather script.

    And Arum knows it, I can assure you. He knows that he now has the final ace in the hole against Mayweather. The Coward Card, stamped and certified by JMM's incredible KO. And I will bet my life savings that there is no chance in this world that Arum will ever make the Pac-May fight now. He will never give Floyd that chance to redeem himself as unafraid to face Pacquiao as JMM just did so brilliantly.

    Here's what's happening now: Many Floyd fans are playing the "told you Pac wasn't on May's level; May didn't need the fight" card. That won't hold up. The smarter Floyd fans are saying "hey, let's still make Pac-May." They know; they know what JMM's KO victory means for Floyd's legacy.

    Checkmate, Bob Arum. Not only does Arum win that game of chess with Floyd Mayweather, Jr, but Arum is also going to get a HUGE 5th Pac-JMM fight that is going to do gigantic PPV numbers. Ridiculous numbers. Possibly record-breaking numbers.

    This wasn't a Bradley "win" over Pacquiao. This was a smaller guy coming up in weight and KNOCKING PACQUIAO THE F*CK OUT.

    Something Floyd Mayweather just couldn't get himself to try to do.

    A sad ending to the Mayweather myth, but one he chose. You will be hearing more of this in the time to come. I know 50 Cent is already saying the same kind of things.
     
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  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ^ LOL.

    Arum has a big fat grin on his face now. And not just because he's already counting $$$ in his head from Pac-JMM V.
     
  4. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    Seemed biased at first, but kind ot true. Mayweather can never be the guy to knock super Pac off. I mean, I dont see the KO coming anyways, as with JMM it was literally a flash KO, and not something predictable imo, but Floyd could have been the man to topple him. Both fighters were at fault and I cant be bothered getting in a discussion with who should have done what. Now, Mayweather lost that possible achievement on the end of his legacy, and it's a shame because even though it's huge for Marquez, I don't feel it changes the face of boxing for this era. Most still know that Pacquiao is greater than Marquez in the long run, most know that this was more of a great punch than a great performance, and most know that the #1 and #2 guys of this generation of boxers were Mayweather and Pacquiao. Marquez gets to go down in history as the guy the knocked out Pacquiao in his prime. Thats a great achievement, but in the long run his career doesnt have the highlights that Mayweather's has to make it one of the most impressive resumes of all time. If that W was on May's record, the whole game would be changed.
     
  5. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's right. That opportunity is over and it was seized, instead, by JMM. Who now goes right up the list in Mexican legend with this win.

    Not only is Mayweather NOT the guy who knocked Super Pac off, he was The Guy Who Was Scared To Face Super Pac. Bad, bad result.

    Now, Mayweather becomes an aftertought. Who really wants to watch Mayweather-Guerrero? Who is Guerrero? This is what the casual will be asking.

    But because of this win, everyone will want to watch Pac-JMM V. Everybody. Can Manny get redemption, or will he get KO'd again in another war?

    By losing, Arum just put Mayweather in checkmate. That's how this stuff works sometimes, and it's probably also why Mayweather is starting to talk now. I'm sure he and his team know what this result means for them.
     
  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    If it helps you sleep better...
     
  7. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's over, bro. Arum won this war. And Floyd lost, by not taking the fight.

    It's not about how I will sleep, it's about how Floyd will sleep with this outcome.
     
  8. recycling

    recycling Active Member Full Member

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    Doubt it mayweather has fans ya know. His ppv success isn't soley based on a potential pacquaio fight
     
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  11. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    Yeah it's definently going to look like that. I always said that Mayweather needed Pacquiao to be one of the greatest but not the other way around. Pacquiao's exciting fights are what makes him the popular name he is. Moving up weight classes, going head to head in wars. Thats all what Pac will be remembered for. The astricks will always be next to Mayweather regarding the situation, and it will kill him. Lennox Lewis said "The reason I faught Tyson is because I didnt want people to ask me 'Who do you think would win in a fight, Lewis or Tyson' in the future". That will always be there for Mayweather, and even though most boxing fans, myself included, have him with all the advantages going in, it can never be definite that the unstoppable super Pac would have been knocked off by the greatest of the generation. May cheated himself out of it, and I'm sure in like 10 years time when he's long retired he'll regret not being the guy celebrating over the face flat Pacquiao and handing the chance to someone else. Marquez will never forget that moment, and neither would have Floyd.
     
  12. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boom. You nailed it.

    Pacquiao never needed Mayweather. Why? Because Pacquiao is the guy with 8 division titles, the record holder. He's the kingpin. He's the smaller guy. His legacy is set.

    Mayweather needed to beat Pacquiao and be the first one to do so in The New Pac Era. Or at least the first since Morales. But Morales was avenged by Pac, so that loss was gone. Bradley is irrelevant, and JMM was a stalemate, at worst, for Pac.

    So the opportunity was sitting there for Floyd. And he blew it.

    It wasn't just that JMM beat Pac and Floyd didn't. It was HOW JMM won and it was also that JMM DID NOT DEMAND ANY SPECIAL DRUG TESTING, and he still KO'd Pac.

    That makes Floyd look awful. Horrible. Pathetic.

    It's going to hurt, and there is no way out of it. His smarter supporters know this, which is why they are saying "hey, let's still make Pac-May!"

    But it's never going to happen now. Arum will never, ever, ever do it.

    It's over. Funny how in getting KO'd, Pac and Arum win the war with Floyd.
     
  13. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Your kind of reaching with that logic.

    Arums probably as pissed as anyone that his cash cow has been flattened like that.
     
  14. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac getting KTFO tarnishes Mayweather's legacy? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.
     
  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Dude...I get it, you are trying to retain some sort of dignity after you've gone on and on about the greatness of Manny blah, blah, blah. Then he gets damn near killed in the ring by a blown up LW that PBF shut out, I understand...I really do, but seriously stop man. This doesn't hurt Floyd's legacy and it has nothing to do with him, Manny got sparked out cold, please try and deal with it.