greatest aura of invincibility

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  1. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    liston before the clay/ali fights. had imo the greatest aura of invincebility. also tyson. look at how scared spinks and patterson where. thye where in their minds already defeated
     
    junior-soprano, Dec 11, 2012
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  2. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Except Liston already had a SD loss on his record

    Tyson was annihilating guys without even breaking a sweat

    Its close though
     
    KidDynamite, Dec 11, 2012
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  3. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet tommy got blasted in 3 rounds and Leonard beat hagler.

    Ive never ever seen 'invincible' linked to tommy hearns name, much less after a stoppage defeat to Leonard. Neither have i seen 'invincible' linked to Leonard either. I love both fighters but its hard to understand your reasoning for bigging up one and downplaying the other, other than you just dont like the guy.

    I dont even know what you mean by 'downplaying the obvious', all i did was ask a straightforward question and got back a not-straightforward answer
     
    johnmaff36, Dec 11, 2012
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's Tyson pre-Douglas.

    I remember reading in a magazine that he was impossible to knockout due to his unique physical make-up.

    or

    Jeffries just before and just after retirment. They thought nobody could beat him. They thought him so invincible they made him a favourite at ringside against Johnson after years of retirement.
     
    McGrain, Dec 11, 2012
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  5. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    going after and challenging depleted fighters suggests weakness, not strength. Sugar never faced Hags in his prime. he had the chance to. nothing was stopping him, but he failed to meet the challenge. that knocks him down several dozen pegs in my book

    and while Sugar was good, this was only Sugar Ray, not Hagler

    it was Hagler with the blockbuster wins over Hearns, Sibson, Hamsho, Roldan, not Leonard

    Even Bryant Gumbel said Hagler beat him better than Sugar Ray

    and he did

    becuz Hags is a fighter made of higher stock

    Sugar is a guy who would pick a fight with the weakest, clumsiest, slowest titlest out there.

    the most limited fighter he could find, and still make him melt down to the lower limit of his weight class

    that's the kind of man he is

    why deny it?

    we all know

    okay, enough of that clown. My picks for greatest image would be Hagler, Hearns (1984 version), Roy Jones (longest streak), followed by Foreman (totalling prime Frazier, Norton & just about everyone else in the division leading up to the title challenge)

    In fact if u look at George's record u can see going all the way back to 1971, a long list of KO 1 & KO 2
     
    redrooster, Dec 11, 2012
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  6. Theron

    Theron Boxing Addict banned

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    But it was well documented that Liston laughed at Marty Marshall and then got his jaw broken in the process and fought the rest of the fight like that, not many people thought Marty had really won and when Liston beat him in the rematch it was kind of like Roy jones jr loosing and then beating Montel Griffin if i had to compare it to a more modern fight, because people didn't believe Marty had really beat Liston and they did not believe Liston could be beaten by Marty. To everybody it was seen as a fluke
     
    Theron, Dec 11, 2012
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  7. JWSoats

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    By the time of Ali's exile in 1967, he had acquired an aura of invincibility. He had cleaned out the division and there was nobody in sight who figured to have much chance. It lasted through the exile and his comback stoppages of Quarry and Bonavena up until FOTC. He even regained a measure of it after defeating Foreman, at least up until the Young and Norton fights.
     
    JWSoats, Dec 11, 2012
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I agree. Sonny Liston is the one that comes to mind first.

    He was mean, he had that stare. Ofcourse the Earth moving power and the skills to back it up.

    They even referenced him on the Munsters:yep
     
    ETM, Dec 11, 2012
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  9. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there were many "smart guys" like eddie futch who were giving ray little chance. fight was 50-50. no one had smart money on it
     
    TIGEREDGE, Dec 12, 2012
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  10. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Weakest, slowest, clumsiest titlelist out there????:lol::lol::lol:


    Correct me if im wrong but werent Duran,Hearns and Hagler all titlelists when SRL beat them:lol::lol:

    Im outta here:nut
     
    johnmaff36, Dec 12, 2012
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