I hope they tested Marquez for PED

Here's the thing, you just use your observations and some common sense to make a logical assumption.

For Marquez's case, he's 39, has a new trainer who's a known PED supplier, and bulks up massively at a weight he's always had trouble at. You can't not raise an eyebrow.

In your case, you seem like a ******. Therefore, logic dictates that there is indeed things of the homosexual trade in your *******.

 

The thread is ridiculous...obviously they are both roiding.... In a leveled playing field, Marquez>> pacquiao, no ?? Asked, not to mention Marquez is 39... I mean, even if Heredia is better than Ariza, c'mon.... pacquiao & his team asked for this themselves.... Aannddd, this are the results!?!?

 

So you think that putting on a few pounds of muscle over a year requires steroids? I'm going to infer that you're a tubby Internet shut in, since we're inferring all kinds of **** in here, and choose not to take your opinions on strength training and hypertrophy very seriously.

 

People just keep on spouting the same ignorant **** over and over.


Using a fighter's physique as 'proof' of PEDs is a little asinine, but since you brought it up.

Katsidis fight at 135:

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Pacquiao 4 @ 147:

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Very slightly more defined, slightly bigger biceps, that's about it. Where are these massive gains you're talking about? He's finally filled out at the weight and it took a long time. There's 3 years + between those pictures.



If you don't believe the gains displayed here can be made naturally with intensive weight training, you're an idiot.



When JMM starts looking like this, get back to me:

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Drug tests are a joke, only idiots get caught. Go to any Body Building site and you can find a hundred threads on how to beat any drug test and keep 90% of your drug gains at the same time. Body Builders are the biggest ******s on the planet yet most of them beat drug tests with ease.

 

2 month ban. Out you get.

 

i hope when he passes clean you stfu

 

Is JMM a one punch ko artist or a accumulation of damage ko artist? that knockdown from round 3 was sick.

Anyways, They are all on it imo.

 

to put on that much muscle - shoulders and neck, upper back in 4 months at 39 is absolutely doable, if you are lifting weights every day. The question becomes how to do it while still training as a fighter. I don't see it. The power he gained, without a loss of speed was impressive. Not saying he roided, but.... its out of line with the aging process.

BTW to compare hopkins in this circumstance is ludicrous as hopkins NEVER achieved one punch ko power like marquez did... in only 4 months!

 

no one can answer this question...why would marquez hire heredia?...marquez not juicing? laugh my fvckn ass off!!

 

because he's a great S&C coach who's worked with Olympic athletes.

 

Hopkins never had power in the first place. Marquez has a 60%+ KO ratio. He could always bang, this time he just had a little extra pop and sat down on his punches.

You could also easily put on that much muscle over the course of more than a year without lifting weights all the time. Gaining muscle is much more about proper diet and doing things the right way, than spending all of your time in the gym.

Either you've got to accept that pretty much every boxer at the top of the sport is on the juice, or you accept that if people pass the tests then they are clean. Because I guarantee you if there is a way to beat the tests every fighter who can afford it is doing it, and that includes Pac.

 

It's been answered. You're just too stupid to realize there is more than just one possibility.

 

this is all pretty ironic

 

the angel heredia era