Jeffries Admits Munroe Did Not Merit Title Chance

Sharkey had been retired for 2 years,won 1 fight in the last 4 and been stopped in 3 of them ,and thrown out with fellow Munroe victim, Maher for not giving his best in another.

If you can make a case to yourself that beating him meant something, perhaps I can interest you in the fairies at the bottom of my garden? Jeffries said he lost money because the sporting public did not have a high regard for Munroe .

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...+says+he+lost+money+on+the+munroe+fight&hl=en



Jeffries turned down a $30,000 guarantee to defend against Sam McVey.:think

 

Name a fighter who was the current sparring partner for a champion and received a title shot whilst serving in that capacity?

 

E M is a good debater isn't he?

 

Matt Donnellon has written a well received book On Peter Maher , I think I'd like to read it.

 

Please tell me where Kennedy trained, and who trained him for his challenge ?

Walcott was briefly a spar mate for Louis when Louis was training to fight the return with Schmeling.This was June 1938.Walcotts pay for a day was $25, he was hired by Mushky Jackson .

Louis fought Walcott in December 1947,that is nearly 10 years after!
SO INCORRECT.
As usual you are way off base .Kaufman challenged Johnson in 1909 , he got such a drubbing, his stock was drastically reduced, and from being peceived as an up and coming challenger he became relegated to sparring partner status, and sparred with Johnson when Jack was training for Jeffries in 1910, a year AFTER he had fought Johnson.

I expressly stated CURRENT SPARRING PARTNER.
You have either not understood it, or deliberately misread it.
[difficult to tell with you]


Gimmick fight? Thats hilarious!:rofl

Thats precisely what the Griffin exhibition was .
Jeffries contracted to stop Griffin in 4 rds or pay a $100 forfeit.
He failed to do so ,and handed over the $100 .atsch
Now, get a towel and ,WIPE THAT EGG OFF YOUR FACE . YOU MUG.:rofl

 

I've corrected your assertions that -----

1 . CHAMPIONS HAVE GIVEN TITLE SHOTS TO CURRENT SPARRING PARTNERS IN THE PAST.[ You changed this to sparring partners in general]


2.THAT WALCOTT WAS A SPARRING PARTNER FOR LOUIS WITHIN A YEAR OF CHALLENGING HIM,
[IT WAS 10 YEARS!]

3. THE GRIFFIN AFFAIR WAS A TITLE DEFENCE. From your own lips you excluded "gimmick fights "in which there were conditions applied.The gimmick was that Jeffries contracted to stop Griffin in 4 rds ,or forfeit $100.
Jeffries forfeited the $100 .
Thats three bull**** assertions from you, and three total , and absolute rebuttals from me.

Why don't you address that?


I give credit to Jeffries when its due, I've made two threads this week that show him in a positive light. This thread is about the following-------

JIM JEFFRIES STATING CATEGORICALLY THAT MUNROE DID NOT MERIT A TITLE SHOT.

Something which I have always said, now we have positive proof that this was Jeffries own opinion.
Accept it because its true.

RAINMAN.
MUNROE IS JUST SIX LETTERS DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT MANAGE TO GET THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER IN FUTURE ?

 

Lets examine this statement.

When Corbett climbed through the ropes to face Jeffries in their second fight he had not engaged in a fight for two years.

That was against Kid McCoy, and is widely believed to have been a fix.

Corbettt had not won an "on the level fight" for over nine and a half years, yes, thats right, over nine and a half years!

[Corbett had been kod in his two fights prior to the dodgy McCoy one ,and his second climbed into the ring to force a dsq in the other one ,when he was in imminent danger of being kod.]

Furthermore that was against 165lbs Charlie Mitchell,who himself had won just one fight in the last four years.

Corbett was one month off thirty seven years old and had been having eye problems, when he went in with the twenty years old Jeffries.

A thirty seven years old , inactive , former fighter who when prime,lacked top end power , and relied on speed, cleverness, and reflexes, is up against it when he is facing a champion who is twenty seven years old, and twenty seven pounds heavier .

Jeffries comparatively easy win over Corbett is more a reflection on how far Corbett had slipped than on Jeffries improvement, imo.

We both know that building up Jeffries opponents is a transparent move on your part to boost Jeffries, so why don't you cut the crap?