? Hernan, Solis, Segura, Miranda, Nino VS Darchinyan, Montiel, Nishioka, Mthalane, Narvaez, Hernan Oh really now? Viloria has beaten better opposition than Donaire? Hahaha. Sorry.
Officially he has a SD win over Pac. He was already a top 10 P4P fighter before he even fought Pac he got the win so he still remains undefeated and thus has moved up in my rankings with Pac losing 2 fights in a row..
Ward got away with things in Oakland against Kessler he would never have gotten away with elsewhere, so how bad Martinez looked or how close he came to being KO'd doesn't mean ****, if this is about wins, Martinez is over Ward
Wards win over Froch is arguably better than any win on Martinez' resume.:deal Also you saying he did things to Kessler shows that you have an agenda. Ward beats Kessler 10 out of 10 times anywhere in the world better more complete fighter. Kessler couldn't adjust nor could he deal with Ward's speed.
Are people forgetting that Toney started off at 160 pounds and has been winning fights at heavyweight? He beat Nunn, McCallum twice, Barkley, Jirov, Williams, Johnson, had a win over Ruiz, could've beaten Peter, and stopped Holyfield. How isn't he still on the lists? Lasted 12 when he was badly weight drained vs. Lebedev, made an attempt at MMA, and fought from middleweight to heavyweight and is still going strong. FFS, the wins over Michael Nunn and Mike McCallum are better wins than just about any of these guys have on their records. And they weren't that long ago either.