Khans improvement under Virgil

i agree. the trouble is that it is way late in the game to be trying to fix such basic fundamental flaws in technique. these flaws were not such a huge issue when he was dealing with fighters not skilled enough to exploit them, but he wants to step up again. there is a reason people dont become world class boxers after 2 years of training, if it were that easy to fix these problems, everyone would have flawless technique. i am not expecting any more from khan than what i am seeing. it is basically the same fans putting the same faith in the hopes of a different outcome than what happened to ricky and floyd sr.

 

I was surprised as heck that Malignaggi didnt featherdust him

 

lol, no need to get your panties in a bunch old man... You can continue to boast about your 35 years of experience on an internet forum if that makes you sleep well at night lol... it seems to make you cry so I won't bring it up again.

"*****", "****", "***", " bitchy", blah, blah.. for a 50 year old man whose vocabulary is equivalent to that of a "high schooler" I can't believe you then have the audacity to accuse someone for not being able to have a "conversation like a man"? Your mature response above says it all.... It's you who needs to learn how to have a discussion like an adult.

For the record, I myself always criticize Amir Khan and am by no means claiming he is going straight to the top.. in fact I was talking about opinions, you don't need to have watched boxing for a while ot have one.

Grow up.

 

thats what you dont understand, princess, no one is boasting. i am stating a fact relevant to the topic being disscussed, thats all. there are posters on here who have been watching boxing for a much shorter time who know a lot more about it than i do. these are just facts that dont affect me emotionaly one way or the other. then you have **** stains like yourself who feel that because they also have access to a computer, that their opinion is just as valid as anyone elses, it aint. i treat people like they set themselves up to be treated and i call it like i see it, and i see you as runty little pissant who thinks he is ready to be involved in conversations with men.

 

There were deffo some improvements but people got to remember he only had 8 weeks with Hunter and that's only one camp, it takes time.

Hunter already said he won't change too much because its too late to make major changes in his set up, he will more focus on getting rid of bad habits and tightening up Khan's defence plus improving Khan's mindset to have more control in the ring and thinking about his actions.

 

Calm down old man.. talk about having a hissy fit.. everyone has an opinion and it should be respected and responded to by having a conversation like an adult. Something you have no idea about because you're too stuck up your own ass you think you're a know it all and can call all the shots... right lol this response sums up the quality of your "conversations with men":

I find it amusing how you feel the urge to respond to my posts after all as you say I'm just a "runty little pissant who thinks he is ready to be involved in conversations with men.".. Still you want to prove yourself to me with your superior 35 years experience of boxing lol... you have proven yourself.. pat yourself on the back

Anyways, some of us have better things to do with their lives than sit behind a computer screen , especially at the age of 50 you'd think......grow a pair, learn to be tolerant, learn to be respectful and learn to have a discussion like an adult. There's still time for you to learn but then again you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Adios!

 

lol, yeah run along now and come back when your balls have dropped. im not trying to have a conversation with you, im putting a smart mouth little **** stain in his place. which your parents should have done so you would have a better idea of what your role is. you think all opinions are valid? lol. you are an idiot who thinks someone who started watching boxing last week is on the same level as someone who has been watching it for 50 years, what kind of moron believes that dumb **** and how much can his opinion count? ill tell you what kind of moron, the kind who has absolutely no real world experience and is only used to dealing with other morons just as clueless as he is, lol.

 

The brits sitting next to us said the same **** anybody with a set of eye balls has said, There are no improvements or changes in Khans Game Nothing new offensively or defensively this is the same Amir Khan period

 

You bring up some good points about his behavior but largely leave out commentary on his technical improvements.

The good:

-Khan was consistently timing his jab really well, landing it frequently, splitting the guard, and didn't feel the need to throw something behind it every other time he pumped it out.

-He controlled the center of the ring better than ever. Instead of retreating to the ropes at full speed (which he did once and got clocked), he used the space well and gave himself room to work by turning Molina.

-He showed development on the inside, staying calm under fire up against the ropes, shelling up, landing short hooks and uppercuts, and soon circled out back to the center after getting his shots in.

-He displayed a general patience with the way the fight was going. He let the stoppage come, but wasn't crazy with his offense in the middle and late rounds.

-Khan somehow seemed able to put punches together faster than I've ever seen. Looked incredibly fast.

The bad:

-Khan still doesn't seem able to distinguish between the shots he's throwing. It's as if once he's decided to throw a 1-2-3, he has to land that third shot right behind the first two, no matter what. He's shown a capacity to pull back from a jab and come back well with a 1-2, but he needs to be more wary of counters when throwing in combination. Early on he was lunging like crazy, but I suppose this will take time.

-He was dropping his right hand from the very beginning. Anytime he threw the jab more than once, his right hand was dropping (what Hopkins calls the "bow and arrow"). The few left hooks he caught were a testament to that, although at least he was outside of Molina's preferred range and was able to take them well. Later in the fight the same problem was showing up with his left hand while throwing the right. Dropping the hands is simply not an option.

-He needs to stop crossing his feet and tripping up when he goes forward or backwards. Watch Joe Louis and try to channel that as much as you can, because bringing your upper body forward and leaving your feet behind you is a perfect way to get knocked down off balance while throwing half-assed shots.

-Throw a better straight-right. Freddie might have been right when citing the wrist problem as an issue, because Khan could wreak havoc with a stiff straight right alone following the jab, but it only seems to come out as a looped shot in combination.

Overall, Khan did well. His flaws are still there, but they will take time to iron out. I'd like to see more parrying and a more cohesive blend between his offense and defense, leading and ducking under & blocking shots and countering more fluidly, with greater awareness. This is something Virgil will probably continue to emphasize when they watch the tape back together. I'm not sure the Khan we saw tonight beats someone as lethal in exchanges as Garcia just yet, but I think he's on his way to getting there.

 

:thumbsup good post man. I was thinking about writing out something similar, but you did it better than I could. It takes a keen and experienced eye to see these things.

I noticed right away that Khan wasn't burning as much wasted energy as in the past. He'd hop around everywhere in the ring and jump around even when he's out of range and no action is going on in the past. He's getting better at not wasting his energy. He needs to fix the way he throws combos those. he doesn't really pick his punches well at all. Just jump in and throw a rehearsed combination at anything.

Khan has some power, but he never lands very cleanly. If he learns to exploit/create openings better, he can become dangerous

 

Dang how long did it take you to write all this , anyway good analysis :good

 

Thanks :good Yeah I think that latter point you made is something that will come with time. Towards the end of the fight he feinted the jab, and landed a right to the body, twice. That's a more mature move, one that shows thought and posed little risk, as opposed to the amateurish strings of combinations he still often throws. But again, with time, I think he'll start picking his shots better. He threw his jab with great accuracy and efficiency.

Thanks! And actually only about 5 minutes.

 

how many threads need to be made about this ****? I'm sick of continuous posting the same **** over so here's what i said in the other one.

Khan has zero skills, none at all. He's fast as **** you and that's confusing a lot of kids on here who don't understand the sweet science. I'll give him one thing, he has balls and a great fighting heart butthese kids don't understand that speed does not equal skill. Khan has poor timing, no adaptability and no ring smarts. Garcia is literally better at everything he's just slower, speed means nothing when you can't take a punch and you're up against someone with great timing. 10 times outa 10 Garcia KO's Khan.... Did yall even watch that fight last night, that slow little midget with no pedigree at all landed a shitload of counter left hooks and straight rights that would have sent Khan to lala land if Molina had a little power, if that was Garcia it would have been over first hook that landed. Garcia's a guy that's not great in any area aside from power punching but he's solid all around, does most things well, stays patient and confident and is able to change his game plan mid fight and adapt. He also knows to punch with Khan when Khan flurries. The jig is up with Khan unfortunately....anyone decent with power is gonna body him, the blueprint has been laid.

 

Stop exaggerating, seriously. He can jab accurately, throw short hooks and uppercuts on the inside, circle well, and throws great body shots.

Judah, Kotelnik, Maidana, McCloskey, and Malignaggi are all solid fighters in their own right who had to climb a pyramid of fighters to get to the world class level. It's not that they "don't understand the sweet science" as if somehow we on a boxing forum could figure out and time Khan in a boxing ring better than they could. He couples his speed with a number of tools he's been taught since winning a medal in the Olympics. He has some serious flaws that he's working on, no doubt, it doesn't make him a worthless bum with "no skill". That's laughable. The hyperbole on this forum is ridiculous sometimes.

 

Khan has the ring IQ of Alfredo Angulo, that's what's really laughable.