How exactly is Sugar Ray Robinson the Greatest?

Funny how he wants everyone to answer his questions, yet he doesn't want to answer a simple one and perhaps most meaningful in this ridiculous thread.

WHO DO YOU CONSIDER THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME TO BE THEN? AND WHY?

 

:-(

 

I can post a more definitive listing- let me go find it

and it drops off quickly prior to 1925 because of many factors, but one being the older the bouts are the more difficult it is to obtain a proper record of it


edit: the bouts also do not include amateur nor bare knuckle

1852 1
1853 1
1854 1
1857 1
1858 2
1859 1
1860 3
1861 4
1862 4
1863 3
1864 2
1865 4
1866 6
1867 9
1868 9
1869 10
1870 3
1871 9
1872 36
1873 18
1874 18
1875 17
1876 26
1877 52
1878 51
1879 68
1880 42
1881 51
1882 142
1883 176
1884 344
1885 379
1886 815
1887 728
1888 635
1889 838
1890 890
1891 864
1892 950
1893 869
1894 900
1895 1333
1896 1472
1897 2055
1898 2301
1899 2825
1900 3533
1901 1666
1902 2921
1903 2724
1904 2747
1905 2579
1906 2957
1907 2851
1908 3531
1909 4089
1910 5947
1911 7086
1912 7065
1913 6804
1914 6874
1915 8553
1916 9229
1917 8175
1918 5474
1919 11517
1920 16155
1921 17812
1922 20474
1923 21344
1924 22256
1925 21107
1926 21619
1927 24286
1928 27262
1929 28469
1930 30928
1931 31182
1932 26160
1933 24473
1934 22159
1935 18848
1936 16492
1937 19958
1938 16825
1939 15413
1940 14626
1941 11524
1942 11088
1943 11498
1944 14909
1945 16289
1946 29688
1947 29299
1948 24324
1949 21742
1950 19048
1951 17095
1952 16170
1953 15297
1954 14695
1955 13732
1956 12759
1957 12403
1958 12777
1959 11850
1960 11553
1961 11211
1962 10712
1963 9680
1964 9236
1965 8817
1966 9138
1967 9151
1968 9319
1969 9148
1970 10627
1971 10141
1972 9325
1973 9790
1974 8855
1975 9043
1976 8563
1977 10601
1978 10093
1979 11751
1980 12252
1981 13657
1982 15096
1983 14445
1984 12515
1985 12684
1986 11255
1987 11549
1988 12147
1989 12934
1990 13331
1991 12428
1992 13017
1993 14162
1994 13621
1995 14144
1996 14170
1997 14694
1998 14063
1999 14861
2000 14859
2001 15765
2002 16747
2003 16921
2004 18247
2005 19332
2006 19772
2007 20540
2008 20112
2009 20563
2010 20584
2011 21611
2012 756

 

& This is why,Great post.Wasnt bout to write or copy all that but this just proves my point further more.Ray was Reigning went unbeaten for huge stretches His first being his 85-0 amater rec with 69 KO's(40 in the 1st round)Don't care who you are you need special talent/skill to pull things like that off.He continued it in pros with 40 fight unbeaten streak till dropped a Dec to lomatta but then went on to beat the legend 5x never dropping another one.After his first L he goes for another huge 73-1-1 to amass a 128-1 Rec against quality opposition. Fought in a era that only had 1 champion worldwide per weight class & there was only 8.Now there's like 16+ divisions with hundreds of meaningless paper belts.Robinson beat legit world champs while today fighters beat belt holders most of the time rather then real champions.Gained Lightweight title & held it for 5yrs,Next won Welterweight title & held it for another 5yrs then Middleweight.He was,old wear & tear was noticeable but when on to fight another 15+ years winning/losing his belts past his prime anyways for a total of 25 years.Let me know when today's so called best floyd/pac can reach 200+ fights & 108 KO's combined lol. Sugar ray got more KO's then they have fights combined :think,No comparison.Nobody greater & only few certain greats can match him(Armstrong,Ali,Joe Louis,Pep just to name a few).

 

So glad mma is on such a downward trend in terms of ratings. Has the absolute worst fan base, catered to the lowest common denominator (as seen here).

 

I like this guy. Hes not a puppet who follows what is written like the masses. Robinson is slighty pushing it though as his greatness is undeniable.

 

Answer me this, I: Why is SRR a "legend", because he beat allota bums?

This shouldn't be too hard. (I've asked it four times, now) Is your opinion of SRR based solely on BoxRec, a simple yes or no.

 

I cant knock anyone who thinks SRR, Ali, SRL, Holmes, JCC sr etc are the greatest.

 

Honestly I don't think you get YOUR point. You're saying how exactly SRR is the greatest, I've stated he beat 10 hall of famers, one of those hall of famers being the 2nd best fighter of all time.. and listed the records of some of them. He's not the the greatest for the journeymen he beat with the losing records, he's the greatest for the hall of famers that he beat. It's simple really. You have two guys with the same record.. one guy feasts on bums his entire career with no one of note.. another guy feasted on bums and some of the best fighters of all time.. who's better between the two? Honestly I think you're ****ing ******ed.. got owned in the last thread and now getting owned in this one.. atschatsch

 

Ah the No Decision thing makes sense. Britton and Greb have over 300 ND bouts between them alone. Thanks for the detailed numbers

 

I skimmed though it was ray's.atsch You got me on this one.But still doesn't diminish my point Ray fought just as many champions & beat them all.What's so funny about being considered the greatest of all time?