Povetkin-Klitschko to be announced next week

I havent heard about anything about this fight and I usually know first so I can start organizing camp.

nothing has been set for 2013 yet

 

They never did when Ali did the same in the 70s. Why change now?

 

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Most Wlad opponents aren't looking to fight on the inside, they're looking to hide on the inside. It's the only shelter they can find

 

So Povetkin finally feels he is ready for Wladamir Ha? In my opinion Povetkin really came down a notch against Huck while Wladamir is still in his prime as good as ever. Povetkin's decision now cause me some suspicion to his motive and commitment to the match.

 

How many times have they tried to make this fight already? I'm not holding my breath.

 

Povetkin has lost his intrigue as a possible Klitschko troubler.

Now, Pulev...

 

From the man who's boxed both, confirms what we all suspect.

Still irs always nice to see two gold medalists go at it. Good scalp for Wlad,

 

I keep seeing these calls for Pulev over Povetkin. And I very much like Pulev, but most of the people bigging him up over Povetkin as a more interesting challenger are doing so because of his wins over Dimitrenko and Ustinov-his most notable. I simply can't see how Povetkin wouldn't look great against them also, personally. Even the rotten Huck form of Povetkin. Those two may be far larger than Huck, but they're not half the fighter he is.

I don't think they are any reason to say Pulev is a better challenger. Povetkin, Huck showing aside (one fight, one night against what would be Pulev's best opponent were he to fight him) did a fine job with Chagaev and Boswell, and, for me, a faded Chag>Dimitrenko and Boswell>Ustinov. I still think Povetkin is the standout heavyweight after Volo and Vitali by way of actual work done. Though, yes, I think Haye would beat him and Pulev may be a toss-up with him.

 

Povetkin has the better resume.

Pulev, to my eyes, is the better heavyweight and would be more of a handful for Volo.

That's...kind of the whole point of hypothetical discussion of h2h match-ups, BE. You don't really know until they happen. You can kind of glean a sense based on performances to date, of course factoring in quality of opposition while doing so. Yeah, Povetkin would easily outpoint Dimitrenko and Ustinov in all likelihood. Pulev has yet to set a pinky toe in truly deep water...understood. I still think he's looked the superior and more complete package to Povetkin, especially since Teddy went tinkering in his brain.

Could my hunch (and many others') be wrong? Could Sasha say battle Wlad to a hard-fought draw while Kubrat suffers a KO1? Sure. The fact that Povetkin has been in with sterner foes isn't a reason to assume that, though. Especially not when Pulev has looked almost faultless in dealing with the level he's yet seen.

 

You must have forgotten or not noticed, Povetkin ducked Dimitrenko before. :deal

 

We're long past the point of looking for a worthy challenger to "pay their dues" and earn a shot at Klitschko.

What everybody wants to see is someone who (through styles, attributes, intangibles) will challenge Klitschko.

The strictly by the book due-paying route is how we got Klitschko vs. Thompson II.

In other words, **** accomplishment. That isn't important anymore, not if he's going to just defend against one highly ranked no-hoper after another ad infinitum ad nauseum until retiring with a contrite shrug.

Who's going to give the big lug a fright? Throw that person in there. That's what matters now.

Bogdan Dinu - not even in double digits, never fought anyone top 50? **** it. Imagine him flying at Wlad, and the look on the latter's face? That's FASCINATING. Get that **** signed now.

 

Aye, I'm simply saying I don't see a reason why Pulev is being made out as this league above Povetkin by many posters, as a challenger, when he's not even proven his equal, let alone better. He's becoming a minor-league ESB darling this year (for a heavyweight contender anyway).

I don't even see how he's more skilled, either. Beyond his jab, I'm actually confident in saying he isn't better than Povetkin, offensively, and I wouldn't state much on defensively, considering Povetkin's been in with craftier guys like Chambers and Pulev hasn't been tested in that way. At least with offense, you get a better sense of what a guy is about with a lesser grade of opposition. Anyway, I'm arguing directly to you about what's more intriguing, to you. It's why I didn't quote you. That's why I didn't quote you. But your comment did remind me, again, that I'm a little puzzled by calls for Pulev/Klitschko > Povetkin/Klitschko.

 

I think Pulev's jab is enough of a difference maker to really impact his chances vs. Povetkin's, and you're probably not beating Klitschko without a strong jab. Banging away at him to force a panic attack is an old script and needs to be torn up. Prime Sammy couldn't get it done. That isn't how it's happening. You need to be tall (and Pulev does have a couple of inches on Povetkin, that helps), fluid, and able to at least compete with Klitshcko in the jab department. Pulev fits that bill. We haven't seen his defense tested, but we also haven't spotted any major leaks yet. I'm satisfied with it...and with his overall arsenal offensively. I'm not expecting him to crack Wlad's chin, mind - but there are precious few heavies out there I see bagging points against the big guy and Kube's one of 'em.

A: see my follow-up in post #58. :yep

 

You and BE both make good points, to me they both offer challenges on opposite sides of the coin. Povetkin has as much power as Pulev imo, neither are huge threats due to one punch power but Povetkin can offer a test with his inside game, short punches and combos as i have already described while Pulev can potentially challenge Vova on the outside due to his size, jab, reflexes and quick feet which he's good at controlling distance with.

They both have their strengths and weakness. Povetkin with his resume, Gold Medals and being Russian are additional factors that would make me excited to see the fight. All of this is unecessary to argue over though since Volodymyr will probably face both in 2013. I look forward to both matchups for different reasons.