Top 12 heavyweight fighter h2h in history

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Put tyson where Ali is imo. He wasnt just a 4 round fighter in his prime. Prime is when a fighter should be looked at h2h
     
  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wasn't just a four round fighter at his best, but his game changed considerably if you made it out of those rounds. I'd give him a shot against anyone at his best, but I think the fighters above him were just better suited overall against more styles even though I'd pock Mike over at least 1 of them h2h.
     
  4. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Oliver McCall? He beat Lewis and Holmes back to back.
     
  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Find one of frankenfranks lists, I thinl he may have McCall #1. :lol:

    Here we go. I was wrong, he has him #2!

    (S)HW :
    1. Nicolay Valuev
    2. Oliver McCall
    3. George Foreman
    4. Vitali Wladimirovich Klitschko
    5. David Tua
    6. Tony Tucker
    7. Mike Tyson
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Lennox Lewis
    10. Riddick Bowe


    11. Ike Ibeabuchi
    12. Lamon Brewster
    13. Ross Puritty
    14. Wladimir Klitschko
    15. Joe Frazier
    16. Muhammad Ali
    17. James Douglas
    18. James Smith
    19. Joe Louis
    20. Chris Byrd

    21. Larry Holmes
    22. Henry Akinwande
    23. Jameel McCline
    24. Sultanakhmed Ibragimov
    25. Frank Bruno
    26. Charles Liston
    27. Rocco Marchegiano
    28. Dominick Guinn
    29. Joe Mesi
    30. George Chuvalo

    31. Bob Cleroux
    32. Micahel Grant
    33. Orlin Norris
    34. Jesse Fergusson
    35. Bert Cooper
    36. Ray Mercer
    37. Luan Krasniqi
    38. Lance Whitaker
    39. Lou Savarese
    40. Oleg Maskaev

    41. Hasim Rahman
    42. Corrie Sanders
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis should be higher and def ranked about LL.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love Louis, he's the greatest heavyweight ever in my opinion. But h2h he has some *****s in his armor that in my opinion may not allow him to be as successful as those I ranked ahead of him. This doesn't mean I don't think he could be any fighter in history, just that his style might not always match up so well.
     
  8. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sonny Liston pops up in some peoples list for reasons known only to them.
     
  9. tezel8764

    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Have you watched him man? He was good bro.
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably because he destroyed almost everyone he fought and has arguably the best jab in heavyweight history. Most people who question Liston have only seen his fights with Ali. The guy was a beast.
     
  11. StillWill

    StillWill Dr. Eisenfaust Full Member

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    Solid list. curious how u rate Marciano in this manner
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I disagree greatly here. Johnson proved to be one of if not the best HW through his time and employed a defense which was superb and well ahead of his day. In a H2H sense, no one before or after until Joe Louis would be close to a favorite over Johnson, in my opinion. So, obviously I think highly of him.

    He beat McVea X3, Langford in their only fight, and had several dramas with a young Jeannette with Johnson taking the best of it. These three are the fellow "elite black HW's" of their time, in an era where the black HW's only fought each other, yet were the best HW's in the world.

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    Vitali Klitschko should certainly be on this list. Nevermind... didn't see him somehow.

    That said, no Marciano? And no Harry Wills? Or Jack Dempsey? Or Jeffries? I guess you have an extreme dislike for era's of old when regarding H2H. Not saying all these guys should be in the top 12, but........

    And Holyfield makes the list?!?!
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't give much thought past 12, but Rocky falls off significantly in my opinion compared to his all time ranking. He would give trouble to some in the top 12 and be slaughtered by others in my opinion. While I don't buy into the myth of size advantages, the Rock got hit to much and wasn't a technician like Louis or with the great head movement of Frazier. Im just hazarding a guess, but I'd say he would probably rank between 15 and 20 but would have to really put mor thought into it.
     
  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rate Johnson very highly all time. My list isn't perfect and I just tried to do some comparitive thinking based on what I've seen from each fighter. Neither Marciano or Dempsey maky MY top 10. I suppose arguments can be made for Wills, but I haven't watched enough of him (though I've read plenty) bto rank him above the guys I have. Jeff would have a strong case in my opinion but again there is a lack of clear footage and he had such a short career its difficult to say how it would have panned out had he had to fight Johnson sooner and other top black fighters. Im interested in see the lists of others though if anyone is willing to post them. No wrong answers here, only opinion.
     
  15. Mordechai

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    1. Lewis
    2. Vladimir
    3. Vitali
    4. Holyfield
    5. Tyson
    6. Holmes
    7. Ali
    8. Foreman
    9. Liston
    10. Joe Louis