Marqez Used P.E.D.s?

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  1. Smokin' Joe

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    utterly owned. Amazing how these idiots keep spouting the same **** that's been refuted many times.


    When was the last time manny had a one punch ko before hatton?

    JMM had one in 2011.
     
  2. steviebruno

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    hmm... The OP tried to disguise an obvious Pac-hugging thread by initially declaring a third party (FMJ) the victor, prior to unveiling his true agenda. He was, subsequently, owned on every aspect of a thread which has been done about 127 times since the fight.

    I get it, though... Marquez + PEDS = multiple page thread. The formula still works. :thumbsup
     
  3. Smokin' Joe

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    Pacquiao fans must always have excuses.
     
  4. Zopilote

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    Funny seeing the *******s scream out with the PED accusations...When it was not too long ago their hero was accused of the same ****, they would defend him tot he death saying the comissions testing is good enough and how they cant accuse him without proof....Now that the tables have turn on them, they're doing the same exact **** as the accusers of their hero were doing.
     
  5. ROACH

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    You are an idiot, smokin joe.

    Or you are incredibly naive.

    That's like seeing some guy walking out of your girl's house, and when you get in, her bra is all messed up and her lipstick is smudged, but she says, "nothing happened," and you believe her.

    Heredia saw $$$ in boxing. The top guys in boxing earn MILLIONS. He said it himself. Every top level boxer is on steriods and there is nothing anybody can do to stop it from happening.

    He knew for a fact he could increase Marquez' recovery time and allow him to work like a 20 year old, despite the fact that he had a 40 year old body.

    The writing is on the wall.

    He was juiced to the eyeballs. Pac walked into a punch and Marquez won, but that doesn't mean he wasn't on juice.

    Juice wasn't necessarily the reason why Marquez won, but obviously it contributed by allowing him to train at a pace he naturally couldn't handle.

    And Heredia makes out like a bandit. Expect more fighters to work with Heredia.
     
  6. steviebruno

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    What if you already cheated on her multiple times, and she's just getting even? Just sayin'.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    If both are possibly juicing then stop bitching then. Your boy got KTFO fair and square!
     
  8. ROACH

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    The thing is, Marquez drinks his **** and eats his ****.

    And that's what I'm trying to say.
     
  9. steviebruno

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    Yeah, but JMM does it by choice.

    When Manny was starving and fighting at 112, those are the only nutrients he could muster. When he could finally afford food and water, he reached his natural weight of 147, where he laughed at punches from full-fledged welters and then obliterated them.
     
  10. Smokin' Joe

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    Another fair and balanced post by this intelligent, valued member of ESB.
























    :roll:
     
  11. bigironmike

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    Oh please. There were a few clips of him squatting 225. Most 8th/9th graders invovled in sports are doing this in their early teens. Not a world-class, or mentionable feat, by any means.
     
  12. Jorrvaskr

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    This. PEDs dont make you walk directly into a right hand though. Pac-Marquez 4 was like the battle of the juicers. I wouldn't be surprised if Manny replaced Ariza with Panama Lewis for 5.
     
  13. Blackness

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    How low an IQ does one need to have to completely discount the fact that a 39 year old fighter, with a KNOWN steroid-designer "strength" coach looked better than he did 10 years back and somehow KOs a guy who could not even put down in 3 previous fights?

    In a nutshell: You don't have proof that Marquez is clean and it looks suspect at the very least unless of course, you have a desperate need for a 5'5 39 year old Mexican Superhero in your life.

    Crazy that some of you clowns will put your heads in the sand as if you know for a fact, the slick ******* is 100% clean. Don't ever tell anyone you think you are "street" smart or a non-sucker. Seriously.
     
  14. Blackness

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    If Barry bonds went from 30 HRs to 70 thanks to the juice... you can bet your idiotic ass that Marquez too, can go from not fazing Manny to knocking him the **** out cold with one shot.


    PEDS they work.
     
  15. dellgriff80

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    I just watched the comparisons btw the weigh-ins for Pacquiao-Marquez 3, Pacquiao-Marquez 4, and Mayweather-Marquez. Look at this **** in three dimensions on video. Look at him standing next to Pacquiao btw 3&4. The guys a "Hulk", as Trainer Angel "Memo" Hernandez put it.

    Pacquiao got caught with the "perfect" punch? I saw Pacquiao get caught with that same "Perfect" punch numerous times in contests 1,2, and 3. It's the same reason I think Pacquiao cant best Mayweather: his defense is lax. I'm talking, full-velocity punches in the first 3 contests.

    A fighter this age, he either has "hands of stone" or he don't. But there wonders of modern science can circumvent this.

    What was Angel Herida/Hernandez boasting in that German interview? About how he has found ways to beat the tests, and how he's educated his athletes to do so, and, AND how lax Mexican regulations are, and how easy it is to get his stuff imported into there. That dude's stance in that post-BALCO interview started making me reminisce something from all the F.B.I. profiling books I've read. The guy was boasting, was reveling in his successes at hooking up with filthy-rich athletes and guiding them to success with P.E.D.s.

    And this worm was a fugitive from the feds, hiding out in a Texas border town motel, and when he got caught, he sacrificed the people who put their trust in him and made him rich.

    On the flip-side of the coin, we got a jaded, aging boxer who's willing to drink his own urine, who's dissillusioned, disheartened and desperate by his continued treatment from Las Vegas judges, (he swore to never fight Manny there again), and who keeps getting his purported "victories" taken away from said judges, 3 times in a row. This is a desperate man who'll try anything. Why wouldn't he exploit the true expertise of his notorious trainer?

    And I gotta say, I am a veteran of rigorous gym training, and I'm the same height as Marquez. Those weights he was putting up, I couldn't come anywhere near that, (and I was on the massive side as well) and when I did see guys squat that kind of weight, well, lets just say you wouldn't see them for days.


    Boxing training is a breed apart from that of weightlifters'. A boxer has to keep up consistant, almost daily sessions to keep up their speed and fluidity. For a little guy almost 40 to be doing such heavy lifting within a boxing training regimine, he'd need to take off 3 days a week. Unless he had *help*.

    All the variables allign for an inevitable conclusion.