Calzaghe got dropped by an almost 50 year old RJJ?

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  1. DREAMCATCHER

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    Hopkins @ 160...u mean the one that was always reduced to lowblows and underhand tactics?

    Don't be so stupid. Hopkins backed down in 02. :lol:

    A shot Calzaghe went to fight Hopkins (with Roach in his corner) in his own backyard @ 175 and publicly bummed him!

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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Hop should of won against Joe. At best it was a draw without the knock down. All Joe did was throw pitty pat punches at Hop that didn't hurt him in the slightest. Hop landed the more clean, effective shots all night.
     
  3. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Plus people say Hopkins used dirty tactics, well guess what? Slapping with the inside of the glove is illegal and should result in point deductions.

    The fight was terrible and neither man came away with much credit that night, but at least Hopkins, as well as having the excuses of being 43, landed some actual punches.
     
  4. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Hopkins defense was top notch in that fight. Calzaghe hardly landed on him.
     
  5. DREAMCATCHER

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    Please.....The fact that Hopkins was allowed to slow the fight down with all his play acting was disgusting. I have always thought Calzaghe did more than enough to get the win. A bad start, but he turned it around. Hopkins seemed to be worn out by the half way mark.

    Just admit it, hopkins could not beat calzaghe fair n square he could not cope with him hence the amateur dramatics...

    And no one really beats hopkins cleanly do they? He fights too negative, he makes fights awkward to score, everyone knew this beforehand yet they are acting like it was a 'robbery' LOL. Give me one fight in history were a fighter has been reduced to what Hopkins was that night? LOL. In that respect it was one of the clearest victories over 12 rounds ever seen.

    Now its not a fight I enjoy watching, quite boring in fact, last big fight on the BBC, put them off boxing forever!

    But ask yourself this:

    1. Why didn't Hopkins press the Action after he had Joe on the deck

    2. If joes shots didn't carry any pop why did Bernard cover up, tie up and not try to overwhelm joe.

    3. Why did Bernard roll about on the floor looking for the ref to take points off Joe if the punches had no power.

    4. Why is it ok for Hopkins to use dirty boxing and then when its done back he wants points taken off the other fighter

    On a side note I still do admire the way he lives the life, the mans looks incredible, is still dedicated and old skool but mentally is slightly up himself.
    I think Cazlaghe simply stopped Hopkins game. He should surely get credit for that. Had hopkins stood and boxed, shunned the play acting and fought cleanly and consistantly for 12 rounds he would have been outpointed more decisively. He knew this and so do u...
     
  6. Barry Smith

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    Hopkins was 43 years old.
     
  7. DREAMCATCHER

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  8. DREAMCATCHER

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    Which is relevant how? 43 or not the guy was linear 175lb LHW champ who beat Tarver, Pavlik and Pascal.

    You talk like a younger mid 30's Hopkins fancied it!! :lol:
     
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  10. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Calzaghe had Hopkins down and out for 5 minutes. Hopkins simply couldnt go on. If he had been forced to get up by a neutral ref, he would have been stopped via exhaustion. That much is simply irrefutable



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  11. DREAMCATCHER

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    We can post google images all day long, he still lost!

    Now for the 2nd Welsh whiteboy slapdown...

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  12. dinovelvet

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    Im a big Cleverly fan.
     
  13. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    For me, Hopkins landed the cleaner punches no doubt, he did a lot of good work with the left hook inside as well

    I had the fight 115-112 to Calzaghe, but I wouldn't argue with anyone who scored it to Hopkins, or scored it a draw, it was that close.

    Calzaghe was made to miss a lot, but people forget he landed good shots throughout as well

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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Only a complete moron or a weirdly obsessed hater (the later of which you obviously are) would try and deny that he probably would've medaled. Like I said earlier, I would've fancied him to win a silver at the very least. Odd how former victims of his Richie Woodhall and Robin Reid were able to grab medals but Joe with his style that was very well suited to the amateurs, and who'd looked sensational in that years ABAs, easily beating the likes of future WBC super-middleweight champion Glen Catley (who should've been a two time world champion after beating Woodhall in everyone bar the judges eyes, including Woodhall's) and future British super-middle & light-heavy champion), Commonwealth light-heavy champion, and the European champion at super-middle too, Dean Francis along the way (Francis had the talent to win world titles too but he was never the same fighter after suffering a terrible shoulder injury), but Joe wouldn't have been able to do the same even though he was levels above them? lol.

    The only obstacle that stood in Woodhall's way of winning the silver was Roy Jones (Richie beat the other bronze medalist in the Commonwealth games final in Aukland in 1990 and was 2-1 against him over all by the way).

    Another Calzaghe victim Jeff Lacy was one win away from nabbing an Olympic bronze too and we all know what Joe did to him. Completely different class of fighter. lol. I guess Lacy's style was more suited to achieving success in the amateurs than Calzaghe's was though, right? lol. The only obstacle that stood in Lacy's way of winning a bronze was the great Russian Gaydarbek Gaydarbekov. Lacy was a good amateur himself (he won over 200 fights), but Gaydarbekov was a special talent and the reigning Olympic champion at the weight and he would've had another Olympic gold to add to his collection of trophies had he not went onto to lose a controversial, razor tight 17-15 decision in the final against the excellent Cuban Jorge Gutierrez.

    Gaydarbekov's CV is insane and it's a damn shame he, like so many of the amateur greats from Communist countries, never turned pro. In addition to beating Lacy, he also holds amateur victories over Jermain Taylor, Zsolt Erdei, Gennady Golovkin, Matvey Korobov, Romanian great Marian Simion, Utkirbek Haydarov (who himself was on the wrong end of a controversial 15-17 decision against Andre Ward in the semi-finals of the 2004 Olympics in Athens), Ismayl Sillakh, and Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam among others.

    But by all means you keep telling yourself that Joe wouldn't have medaled if it helps you overcome your illness. lol
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks. To be honest I can't be bothered most of the time. I'd rather bang my head up against a brick wall than waste my time arguing with these ****ing imbecile haters, some of whom are clearly mentally unhinged and in need of psychiatric help.

    Yes, I knew about that actually. I have an interview where Frank ****** talks about that I'll dig out later.