is Pernel Whitaker Overrated?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ushvinder, Oct 31, 2012.


  1. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    in the way most greats are overrated, he might be underrated in comparison
     
  2. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    No, that's about how it was. Nelson was badly outclassed, but game throughout. Not exactly the easiest spirit to break, Azumah. Pea's jab was razor sharp. I'm sure it's already been mentioned as a detraction, but I don't consider his being at 135 the first time out all that big of a deal. They were the same size. Nelson was amongst the top 5-6 P4P guys in the game at the time.
     
  3. Flea Man

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  4. Manos de Hierro

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    Oh, he was definitely well regarded, Flea. Anybody who sees that clip would surely be amused by the ultimate cynic Larry Merchant gushing respect for him and citing his quality of opposition at the time. He was not only on The Ring several times, but Sports Illustrated a couple times as well -- Can tell you firsthand that it is about as far from a boxing-related publication as it gets, perhaps maybe the 6th through 8th most covered sport.

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    For comparison, these guys have been featured the following amount of times:

    Roy Jones, Jr: 0 times
    Oscar De La Hoya: 1 time (w/ Floyd Mayweather)
    Manny Pacquiao: 0 times
    Floyd Mayweather: 1 time (w/ Oscar De La Hoya)
    Bernard Hopkins: 0 times

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    ^ After DLH fight.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Fantastic post and the last one was the cover I was referencing. PM me your real identity ;)

     
  6. Manos de Hierro

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    It's in the custom title. ;) For some reason, I hadn't been able to log-in the last week or so.


    BIG, AZ and Nas (instrumental) to a Sweet Pea video. :clap:
    (Ice Veins does great stuff)

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  8. Nipple

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    How popular was Sweet Pea? Did he have a large following or not?
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I feel the subtle genius in this post must be highlighted.
     
  10. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's weird.......back then I used to just despise Whitaker. Hated showboats. I also never liked it when things appeared too easy for someone. I resented that it appeared as if they didn't have to really work for what they were getting. That was of course not true, these guys work like pigs, but you know what I mean......

    Anyway, I would tune in not so much because I expected him to get beaten on a given night (he was that dominant) but to see if someone might steal a couple rounds from him and thereby make him look bad. That was about all I could hope for.

    Given the consistently high level of opposition he faced and how for so many years he ran the tables on them even at THAT level, I'd have to say he's the best I've seen in the years I've followed the sport.
     
  11. Hands of Iron

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    :lol:

    S_S is one of the best imo. 'Classic' thread here.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't say he was popular. He had trouble filling arenas outside of the Scope, even when he was regarded as the best p4p.

    Those who understood the sport appreciated his skills, but he wasn't a pimple on Tyson's ass and was largely overshadowed even by guys his own size like Julio Cesar Chavez.
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm overrated. And a maniacal agenda driven hater :good
     
  14. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Oh, I'm sure that when alone and going on Floyd's own merit and not comparatively, you have appreciation for his abilities. Aside from Flea Man (obviously), I'm one of the few on here who's openly "out" as a Mayweather fan :lol: - though I like him less than a good handful (including Pea). He stopped caring about big challenges when he made it to $25-40 milllion per fight pay days and it's a little difficult to fault him for not wanting to give that up. Really did look and was the part at his lower weights, though. You can match him there with anybody historically because he likely wouldn't of had an issue fighting anybody at that point of his career.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Pea is the best fighter below welterweight.

    I reckon he's the second best in history behind only Robinson.