Pacquiao KO more chin degredation, less "perfect shot"

lol, bradleys punches are like *****-slaps by anorexic model. He cant dent anything, bradley lost and got wheelchaired, haha

 

JMM shot the right in the 3rd round around Pac's guard... Pac dropped it slightly, JMM had all his power in a right hayemaker, and knocked Pac down. Between being a great shot, Pac not seeing it, and JMM putting everything he had in to, hard not to be hurt by it.
The last punch knocks anybody out if they can connect that perfectly.

I do think Pac didn't look as strong. Maybe due to lack of S&C. I think he would have had a bit more power on his punches, and I do think he could take that punch in the 3rd round. Before the KO he throws a couple of feints and basically charges in to the hook. If anything it was just plain DUMB for him to do. Would have knocked him out regardless, but I do believe he needs S&C.

 

He was stunned the first time, his legs buckled, Marquez just landed more cleanly and built himself for more power this time around.

Again, absent a vicious beating, chin is the last thing to go for a fighter. The first 5 rounds were the best Manny has looked in ages. There was no degradation.

 

What? First of all, Marquez was farther out of range in the shot you posted. Second, Manny's hands were all the way down and saw the right hand land, unlike the 4th fight knockdown where his hand dropped only a bit and obscured his vision. Third, Marquez trained for a knockout in this fight, not a picture-perfect decision like he tried for in the third, so he trained for more power and sat down on his punches more.

If you expect a fighter to react to the same punch the same way every time it lands across different fights, you don't understand boxing.

One more time, maybe you'll get this: chin is the last thing to leave a fighter absent a previous vicious beating, of which there was no such kind.

And you're crazy if you compare him to the Bradley fight. He was as quick as the Cotto fight and in perpetual motion, not fighting one minute per round. Foot-speed, upper body movement, hand-speed, explosiveness, reflexes, those all leave before the chin do. And they were clearly present.

 

Marquez trained and prepared to knock Manny out this time around.. He threw with the intention to KO Pac, I don't believe that was his intention in any other fight. Pac has been hurt at this higher weight, his opponents just couldn't land cleanly as often as JMM could. JMM went for the KO, timed Pac perfectly, and that's what happens. No need for excuses.

 

KO6
STFU already..

 

This is getting rediculous.


The dynamics of every punch thrown are different. And as pointed out, the same punch can have a different effect on a fighter given to many circumstances.

Did Tyson knock a guy down EVERY time he landed a perfect left hook? No. The argument is stupid, and I'd question the knowledge and general intelligence of anyone who uses it.

 

Manny's body is breaking down due to PED abuse.

 

At this point you're just eager to make an excuse, it's painfully obvious.

Watch the tape, Manny dropped his hands but was in position to see the right a split-second before it landed. Manny didn't see it at all in the 4th fight.

Watch the two knockdowns I've posted; both times, legs are buckling, but this time, he was dropped. Fairly similar.

I could post a GIF of Manny landing a left while slipping the jab in the 3rd fight, and then post the 5th round knockdown from the 4th. They look really similar. Is JMM's chin also degrading?

It's no fairy tale Marquez trained for the knockout; he said it in the third to throw of Manny's gameplan, and it worked, because he came in expecting to counter Marquez without having to bait him, and when that didn't happen. he was unprepared to create opportunities against a defensive JMM. Here, JMM's career has little left to prove, and he was clearly throwing with intention, lacking some of the speed he acquired previously, focusing more on hurting Pacquiao than he was winning rounds. This is apparent to everyone but a handful of *******s.

Whether he was quite as fast as the Cotto fight is irrelevant. Chin is the last thing to go for a fighter, before speed, explosiveness, and reflexes. He was anticipating Juan's punches better than ever in this fight. Manny has shown no signs of being wobbled in the past year and a half. Degradation is not going to suddenly appear for your convenience. You don't need to ramble on theorizing an excuse that isn't supported by much evidence just because you're hero lost, there's no shame in it.

 

PED body + Pac's feet not planted + leaping forward with hands down going for the KO = knocked out. **** all to do with "chin degradation".

 

The funny thing is JMM landed that same KO blow a few times in the 5th round. Manny never adapted to it and people were too busy cheering for Manny looking real busy and getting a KD but watch the 5th round again. JMM took a beating that round but so did Manny with body shots, left hooks, and the right hand catching Manny as he tries to do those amateur sidesteps of his.

 

there's no way in hell to prove this theory.