How highly do you rate 39yo JMMs KO victory over prime motivated Pacquiao?

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    computer says no
     
    Beouche, Dec 20, 2012
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  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Hello there. I see you're living up to your award :smoke

    and this win is pretty damn historic. Tarver's over Roy was pretty great, but I prefer this one because of the history between Juan and Pac.
     
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  3. TheJuggernaut

    TheJuggernaut Hitchslap Full Member

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    Its definitely a big win, but in terms of "in the history of the sport", its definitely not that high. These are 2 greats were talking about here, you know? A great beating a fellow great is great, but I wouldnt rate it historically that high.

    Something like Buster Douglass beating Tyson to me is a far better win for Douglas, because of how much better Tyson is than him. Or even Rahman beating Lewis. Lewis is an atg heavyweight, Rahman isnt close, so for him to get that kind of a win is better thatn for a great legend like Marquez getting a win over a fellow great in Pacquiao.

    Again, im just talking about what the magnitude of the win means to the winner
     
    TheJuggernaut, Dec 20, 2012
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  4. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    What about the last 20?
     
    Beouche, Dec 20, 2012
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  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :think

    I suppose Tarver-Jones does come to mind...wasn't around at the time though so I can't say how shocking it was. Also hard for me to say whether Jones or Manny ranks higher.
     
    Bogotazo, Dec 20, 2012
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  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    ;)


    When was Tarvers win over Roy?
    And was Jones peak?
    What weight was is at?


    A massive factor in this is Juan is a LIGHTWEIGHT who was forced to move up to chase Pacquiao. He KOd this monster 2 weights above his natural weight class :yikes
     
    Beouche, Dec 20, 2012
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  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac lost his previous fight against Tim and "lost" to JMM in their 3rd fight so that kind of lessens the significance of the win. Had this ko occurred in 2009, it would be one of the better wins in history.
     
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  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Thats true, its not like we have a poor fighter beating a great fighter

    But the two examples you bring up..... Well we all know Rahman KO Lewis was a hail mary. And Tyson was soon shown up losing several times after the Douglas shock

    These two wins might have been more shocking, but they were no where near as historically impressive
     
    Beouche, Dec 20, 2012
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  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Any others you can think of?


    List them all bro, lets see just where this devastating KO fits in
     
    Beouche, Dec 20, 2012
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  10. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac isn't prime, and people noted that before the fight even took place.
     
    Outboxer, Dec 20, 2012
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  11. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also, look at the odds going into the fight. Jmm was only about a -225 underdog.
     
    klion22, Dec 20, 2012
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  12. Manila

    Manila Temporarily Unbanned Full Member

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    Prime? **** off idiot. You must have not seen the Mosley, Bradley, and Marquez III fights. Idiot.
     
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  13. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    that was the best version of Pacquiao we've seen for years

    He was on his was to stopping Juan
     
    Beouche, Dec 20, 2012
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  14. Doc

    Doc Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Marquez beat every version of Pacquiao, they said he was to green in the first 2 fights, so the little LW marquez schooled PAcquiao in the 3rd, the prime PAC, the not even god can save Marquez, the best training camp, WW PRIME PAC, this time it's personal! And Marquez schooled that ass in Pt. 3, then Marquez KTFO pac in pt. 4..


    So PAc was green in the first 2, and passed prime in the last 2?


    THese *******s are beyond ******ed.


    MARQUEZ PAPA de PACQUIAO

    4-0

    **** BS judges, marquez is the only one to have the clearest win in Pt 3, and Pt. 4.
     
    Doc, Dec 20, 2012
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  15. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Best win since Barrera embaressed Hamed
     
    Suga, Dec 20, 2012
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