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Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Anglosaxon, Nov 10, 2012.


  1. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Depends what the sticking point on your deadlift is mate.
     
  2. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You're not having to stabilise anything, there's a reason why it's so much easier to go heavy. There'll be some transfer but you're better off just actually deadlifting.
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As Jdsm said, depends where you're having issues with deads. I'd suggest doing them in a power cage, though over that machine.

    Are you having trouble off the ground or lockout?
     
  4. cutthroat22

    cutthroat22 New Member Full Member

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    Just to be clear I used the bottom of the machine not the upper rack pull part but the sticking part for me with real deads is the bottom. I had 190kg on lock then one day doing 200kg my back went, now I've got such a mental issue with them. I need to strengthen my lower back for sure, I took a pic yesterday and my upper back is decently muscled but my lower back just looks weak.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good mornings = incredibly strong back.
     
  6. cutthroat22

    cutthroat22 New Member Full Member

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    Do they mainly concentrate on lower back? I've never looked into them tbh. Reckon my lower back will take better shape when cutting? My back arches in a fair bit, always wondered if it effects my deads.

    (Sorry for the pic, feel I should no homo)

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  7. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course. If your back aches something is wrong with your body. Muscle imbalances, flexibility, mobility, injury, they all affect your lifts to different degrees.

    It may just be the way your tensing but it looks like you have some scoliosis kicking in.

    Good mornings are by far the best lower back exercise you can do. It's tough to find a decent instruction video as every one I've seen doing them explains them wrong. You basically start in the same stance as a squat with the bar on your back, squat down and lean forwards until your in the starting position of a deadlift then stand back up. Start light and keep the reps relatively low at first, you **** up this lift with too much weight or fatigue and you'll most likely **** yourself up.
     
  8. Opti

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    Just try superman's basically the reverse of a sit up! Hyperextensions (Back Extensions) are very good as well!

    Both should help to build up your lower back and also there is good mornings (Personally don't like good mornings)
     
  9. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cut, search for 'Bret Contreras - Anterior Pelivic Tilt', may be of use mate.
     
  10. cutthroat22

    cutthroat22 New Member Full Member

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    Yea I'm 100% sure I have scoliosis, it's always been that way though so its not due to working out, never bothered to get it checked though.
    I tend to keep most back exercises pretty light now through fear of injuring it.

    Yea those are great actually, need to add them back in.
     
  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does your gym have a reverse hyper? Also great for lower back.
     
  12. cutthroat22

    cutthroat22 New Member Full Member

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    Nah it doesn't virus. I'll give the good mornings a try, always thought they looked so awkward.
     
  13. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Buy a thick foam pad and try barbell hip thrusts. Weak glutes cause a lot of lower back problems. Will improve your deadlift lock out too.
     
  14. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not that difficult really. The main thing most people do wrong is standing with their feet too close together and going too low. It's basically a quarter squat with a forward lean.
     
  15. cutthroat22

    cutthroat22 New Member Full Member

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    I don't think my gluten are weak, I think the opposite, I'm convinced the shape of my back is the reason for the back pain. I might get my back looked at I think.

    Any good YouTube links mate?