Joe Murray joins Arnie

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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Scene it :good

    Interesting move, Gallagher has slipped a lot as a trainer lately, I have it on reasonable authority that another of his bigger names is getting a bit of training elsewhere too....

    Bearing in mind that Arnie is part of the inner sanctum at Allegedly Towers, could a switch of promoter be in the offing too?

    Crolla had to leave Arnies because he left Allegedly for the Hattons....

    Must admit I didn't see this coming at all, I'd probably forgotten that Joe Murray existed.

    Top lad is Arnie, hopefully this works out for both of them.

    That's the second switch from Gallagher to Arnie recently, following Murderous Mark Heffron.
     
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    Interesting move him and gallagher have had there differences in the past doesn't surprise me this, all the best to him, top fella.
     
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    is mark heffron actually fighting?
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Too many average trainers in boxing. Sometimes you feel family members and mates just follow each other rather than looking for the best trainer, in the best conditions. It also seems incredibly easy to want to keep swapping trainers and blaming any hiccup on them.
     
  5. brown bomber

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    Interesting move. I thought if Murray was going to change anything it would be his promotional ties. Good luck to him though he's a talented lad and a nice kid.

    Why do you feel JGs forms dipped BB ?
     
  6. USA Rob

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    so true with Gallaghers boys.

    Stephen Smith and Joe Murray are good technical boxers. There careers have floundered under Gallagher who is a good conditioner and can train aggressive fighters.

    Liam Smith & Scott Quigg have excelled under Gallager as thats his style.
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Murray was taught to box by joe I think. Any skills he's got at long range are down to joe as well surely?
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I'd have changed both trainer and promoter personally, if I was him.

    As for Gallagher, I think he got carried away with his success and didn't adapt as his fighters stepped up in class.

    They're awfully easy to work out, work off the back foot, paw with the jab and then step in with the power shots as the guard opens up..... rinse and repeat all night.

    Not sure whether it's him or the fighters themselves, but something's not right. Plodding feet, the guard is too high.... etc etc.
     
  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    His domestic form is second to none though. I think I've got an idea why they sort of get stuck at British/ European level.

    But gallaghers fighters do have strengths! There infighting is top class, and they are great to watch. Fitness is usually very good. I've spoke to joe about his training methods a bit over the years and he's very thoughtful and has some good idea's and definite method in what he's doing.
     
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    Gallagher hasn't slipped, he was just never very good. Can't teach defence at all.
     
  11. brown bomber

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    Never very good? Lol I'd like to be that 'bad 'at it one day !
     
  12. gallagher's fighers have been getting better , whereas i felt arnies fighters have been slipping
     
  13. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I don't think that's the case.. Paul butler looks mustard. Who have they both got?
     
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    Gallagher has slipped?
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think a big problem is their footwork, they all follow the opponent rather than close down the distance.

    Could do with a bit of work blocking the uppercuts too.