Rewarding ineffective aggression over clean punching, ring generalship and defense?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Faerun, Dec 26, 2012.


  1. macp1

    macp1 Guest

    LOL!!!! This was written as I was writing out my last comment. Case in point. You didn't address what I said AT ALL! Instead you offered somne childish insult and assumption. Go watch UFC please.
     
  2. macp1

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    I agree 100%! I actually had USS winning that fight until I watched it a few times and watched it a lot closer than I did live. I like to enjoy the fight live. I cant do that and score. I'm not a judge.
     
  3. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then allow me to retort.

    Yeah, not childish at all. If I understand you correctly, winning a fight by the official four scoring criteria (which Cunningham did) is not enough - you're also not allowed to box defensively if you're fighting a boxer who's the bookie's fav? Also, what belt did Adamek have Cunningham could've taken? So please specify this bull**** for me because I literally have no idea what the **** you're babbling about:

    "The challenger should have to take the belt, not run all fight."
     
  4. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek holds the prestigious IBF North American Heavyweight title. Holding such a great belt this means he should get the benefit of the doubt in each round every one of his fights :rofl
     
  5. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch Again footwork=running:lol:
    You are acting like moving is forbidden, you should watch some other sport where fighters have their legs glued to the floor so they can just stand and trade, in boxing footwork is very important its not Cunningham fault that Adamek was fat and to slow to cut the ring off!!!
     
  6. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you feel the same when Tomasz "ran" against Areola? Surely he couldn't have deserved that W? I mean, Areola stalked him all night. Had him running, shoe shining, pitter pattering while Areola pushed the action, and fought like a man.

    Bottom line is, it doesn't matter what direction a fighter is moving. It matters who lands the better leather. Backwards or forwards.

    Using your logic, a guy with longer reach shouldn't try to create distance, he should fight up close if that is what his opponent wants to do, so long as he doesn't dare take that backward step. Even if it the opponents only chance to do anything meaningful.

    I think you guys are choosing not to realize that the strategy of each fighter is directly related to who the opponent is. It would be foolish to play into your opponents strengths, and more importantly, away from your own.

    You guys keep quoting punch stats, but honestly, did you think Adamek looked good in the Cunningham II fight? How about the Chambers fight? Do you think those stats were an accurate representation of his performances? Or are they a convenient prop?
     
  7. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay guys, we're done here.
     
  8. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Goddamn dude, truer words were never spoken. Bookmark'd.
     
  9. macp1

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    Yes I did. Only one judge had a big win for Goral. I sided more with the draw
     
  10. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Adamek outlanded both with power punches and this is what judges scored.
     
  11. macp1

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    And I also feel Adamek landed the much better punches against Cunningham last weekend. USS never hurt TA once. Not once. Can't say the reciprocal is true.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Then don't get into arguments with people about scoring.
     
  13. artful

    artful *practice makes perfect* Full Member

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    No.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    "Take the belt" is bull****.

    A 12-rounder with high stakes ought be scored no differently than a 4-rounder. It should still be scored on a RBR basis, under the 10-point must system, using the accepted criteria and nothing else. (including the scorer's own stylistic preference)

    A championship on the line doesn't mean the rules change, nor should the spirit of the rule system in place. Aggression for its own sake doesn't suddenly become unconditionally important because the bout is important.

    Any judge who openly admits a tendency to penalize a challenger for not being "aggressive enough" when all of their actual training would indicate that based on the existing criteria they have done enough needs to be fired and never work a match again.
     
  15. artful

    artful *practice makes perfect* Full Member

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    'Power punches'? fights aren't scored on 'power punches', can you link the compubox stats again please.