Abraham claims to be negotiating with Pavlik.

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  1. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pavlik was a 10-1 underdog at pinnacle. dont know how you can call that a fight.

    those odds are pretty close to canelo fights, whose "best" opponent was cintron at 8-1.

    that being said, abraham has fought four fights in 2012 and needs rest, at least six months as he is undersized for a 168. a fresh and rested abraham should have no problem with kp the alcoholic.
     
  2. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dont have the link but abraham was the favorite to win the super six
     
  3. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Think Pavlik takes this.

    Ive seen nothing to say that Pavlik is washed up. Hes been beaten twice by 2 HOFers, one of whom was competing 2 divisions above Pavlik.
     
  4. uglyandproud7

    uglyandproud7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another good matchup, both are 160 guys at SMW. Was there talk of them at 160 before? I don't recall.
     
  5. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    He's also been beaten by 2 ATGs Jack Daniels and Johnnie Walker, which is more worrrying.
     
  6. Man09

    Man09 Active Member Full Member

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    Abraham has a scheduled a rematch with Stieglitz March late.They talked of a potential future fight with Pavlik in autumn 2013 until then Pavlik has to fight he cant wait for Abraham.
     
  7. COLD-HARD-TRUTH

    COLD-HARD-TRUTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Kelly has a really good chance of beating Abraham. He has shown improvement in his offensive diversity under Garcia ... I think Pavlik gives anybody at 168 a run for their money...except Ward.
     
  8. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A very interesting fight is Kessler vs Pavlik.

    and it can be made right now since neither has a scheduled opponent.
     
  9. Scar

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    He still could have opted out before it even began, Bute style. He didn't need to participate in a dangerous tournament as a new SMW yet he did and isn't getting any credit for it. Abraham's defense isn't any better than Pavlik's, actually it is better considering his peek-a-boo style and constant movement. All Pavlik does there is lunge forward wide open for all sorts of punches and counters. I'm easily picking Abraham in this one based on experience and opposition, if the smaller Martinez was able to pummel Pavlik from pillar to post, I expect far more from Abraham who exchanged with the likes of Ward and Froch. Regarding the fight not happening at MW, Abraham wanted this fight, surely you remember Arum's despicable response claiming Abraham is unknown while the likes of Gary "The Rocket" Lockett, Rubio and Espino were apparently worthwhile. No offense but I find it ridiculous that you think Abraham is petrified of Pavlik yet joined the super six, risked his 0 and fought to the very end wherever and whenever he was required to. Pavlik has done NOTHING close to what Abraham did his entire career.
     
  10. Scar

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    I'm confident it was Kessler.
     
  11. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    here the odds were even for both kessler and aa

    http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/super-six-odds-set-26480

    but here kessler was the sole favorite

    http://www.betus.com.pa/sports-betting/boxing/articles/odds-to-win-the-super-6-world-boxing-classic/

    still, pretty ludicrous, almost delusional to believe that aa ran from kp when he stepped up to much stronger and bigger competition in the super six.

    154 is prime for a super eight.

    canelo
    floyd
    trout
    molina
    kirkland
    vanes
    lara
    bundrage

    other than maybe bundrage or vanes, i can see any of the other guys winning it.
     
  12. Firestarter

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    It was Kessler who were the favorite going into the SS.
    But after the first round, where Kessler lost to Ward, and AA's KO of Taylor then AA became the fav.
     
  13. guncho

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    well this would be good fight! if kelly is near to his best he should win by PTS.

    by the way kellys best wins are against Taylor and Miranda, Abraham beat them too!
     
  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    you must have forgot his 10 or 12 IBF defenses against crap all those years, and this last guy he fought was another joke.
     
  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Means nothing when he still fought the likes of Taylor, Froch, Miranda x2(surely you remember how he fought on with a broken jaw back when Miranda was undefeated), Ikeke(a top fighter at the time and highly rated), Ward and Dirrell. Shall we forget all of the opponents mentioned and focus only on easy pickings? That said, is he the only fighter in history that fought easy pickings here and there?, bring me ONE all-time great that didn't have easy pickings/stay-active fights on his resume. It's one thing to fight easy opponents from time to time than to make a career fighting them.