How I would advise Robert Guerrero to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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  1. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Some very good posts :good

    I was impressed by Guerrero's physicality against Berto, and I wouldn't be surprised if he continued that against Mayweather...which would be a mistake IMO. Mayweather is just too clever, too experienced, and it's what he expects now.

    The 'ambush' tactics are very interesting, and the fact Guerrero is southpaw who has very good punch variety makes it all the more interesting. What Guerrero can't do if he is to have success is throw the "norm" combinations and patterns. Don't follow a right with a left, then a right and then a left. Mix it up, throw two lefts, one right, a left, two rights, etc, etc...all the while mixing it from head to body, body to head, uppercuts, etc. Straight punches, hooks, different angles for punches, different variations of punches, etc. Don't fall in to a pattern, Mayweather loves it. Cotto had a lot of success by mixing his punches up, 3 lefts in a row, not the usual left, right, left. You will make Mayweather's defense stand out even more if your punches are in the left, right, left pattern.

    Not sure Guerrero is capable of any of this though. He may have success early, but I see Mayweather breaking him down.
     
  2. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Good point Bogo as always. I still think the southpaw left to the body will work dividends on an aging Mayweather and will leave openings to the head later but Mayweather's conditioning has yet to fail him.
     
  3. bronx

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    Jab, Jab, Jab!

    get in his chest and make it rough, move your head don't get caught coming in with anything stupid.

    Go to the body early and Jab, Jab, Jab......Left cross....repeat

    get in his chest and rough him up above all else.
     
  4. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    A mix of head butts, low blows, step on foot, Counter low blows. Hold the kisses
     
  5. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guerrero is going to really have to mix things up in there to pull and upset. Just throwing a lot of punches is not going to get it done. We've seen countless fighters before do the same and none was successful. I really don't see him pulling it off, no matter what he does, unless he get lucky and catch Floyd with something big.
     
  6. markq

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    GRAPPLE like he's in the UFC. No advice needed. That was his game plan against Berto. That will be his game plan for Mayweather.
     
  7. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    Will that punch be available to Guerrero if Mayweather is walking him down?
     
  8. RJJFan

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    If RG can keep Mayweather on his left.
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    And make him reach.

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    Floyd's right foot steps forward every time he throws in that clip. He's lucky he hasn't been made to pay for it yet with an offensive just as he's swinging forward.
     
  10. Emeritus

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    The one thing I liked about how Cotto fought Mayweather is he never let ANYTHING discourage him and he just kept coming. However he wasn't reckless with it.

    Guerrero has to fight like he is starving and this is his one shot, if he can fight the fight of his life who knows maybe Mayweathers' age shows or he has an off night?
     
  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    mayweather only has a few fights left in him, and to waste it on a guy that was fighting for the lightweight title last year, who resume now reads 2-0 as a welterweight , over one guy with not significant win on his record , and the other guy Berto, giving him his 2nd loss in 3 fights. yippie.
    robert is a good fighter at 135....he is unproven at 147 and trout would giving him a boxing lesson by the way
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I think the Berto performance showed he can hang at welter. It's not just who he beat, but how he did it; being very physically dominant.
     
  13. tliang1000

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    Fighting Trout would be considered wasted. Trout doesn't have a following.

    Robert has been boiling down to make 135 for years and showed up on the night of the fight at 153lbs. THe move to WW would a norm/relieve for him and made him stronger without having to weight drain. He obviously prove that he can hang with the WWs. Alydin and Berto were both very strong WWs and Robert was able to take his Alydin's shots and outmuscle Berto. So to say that Floyd have a strength advantage? I doubt that.

    With the boxing pedigree that Robert have. I would not say he would get a boxing lesson from Trout.
     
  14. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Guerrero isn't as unproven as you think at Welter. Berto was still considered a top Welter when Guerrero beat him. The Welterweight division at the minute is virtually unproven, it's not as deep as it looks, and hasn't been for years. The only reason it has been kept in the spotlight as one of the best divisions in the sport is because of Mayweather and Pacquiao, outside of that, it has been full of prospects or unprovens who have yet to step up since Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Williams, etc all left 147lbs.

    Opponents for Mayweather at 147lbs are very thin.

    Marquez - already beaten him via shut out, rematch probably can catch the public eye since Marquez's KO of Pacquiao, but most likely the same result. Mayweather would be criticised for this.

    Pacquiao - 2 defeats in a row (even though he beat Bradley, I thought he lost to Marquez the third time anyway), 1 via devastating KO. Hasn't happened for years, unlikely to happen now. Mayweather would massively be criticised for this bout.

    Bradley - A bout that I would like to see, Top Rank and GBP though, ruining good matchups as usual. Bradley will probably face Pacquiao again next if Arum has his way.

    Who else at 147lbs? Malignaggi? Brook? Alexander? Can't think of many more.

    The division is thin, and you can't expect him to keep fighting at 154lbs just to please the fans. Twice he has fought at 154lbs, twice he hasn't looked his best. He's a small Welter, and an even smaller Light Middle. He can't be criticised if he doesn't box at that weight again.
     
  15. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    guerrero isn't unproven