Terry Norris pays the price for greatness

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Filthy McNasty, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Very sad to read. If theres anything positive to take from this, it's that fighters are acting more sensible and thinking of their brain more when in training. The old macho days of complete disregard are on the way out. Sparring after brain injury, head aches, ignoring blurry vision and the rest of the signs. You need to give the brain a rest, spar in moderation and ****ing hell 300 amatuers and 50+ pro fights...
     
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    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd take Winky Wright H2H aswell.
     
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    Saltzy Bam-O Full Member

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    If you're still moving on the canvas then it's not really a "KO"
     
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    BeReal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I went to his IBHOF speech in Canastota when he was inducted and he slurred through the whole speech and you could barely hear him and definitely couldn't understand him. So sad, good luck champ!
     
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    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its wellknown facts I have stated, but it is impossible to argue with ignorance such as yours I guess:deal
     
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    Thats why I always advocate fighters retiring sooner rather then later, and year after year people say how Im wrong for doing that and that its overreacting and blah blah....

    THIS is exactly why I like to see fighters retire when they show signs that they should (signs meaning, starting to take big shots, or those shots effecting them more in the ring, looking worse for wear)

    This is such a shame and heartbreaking to see :-(
     
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    I obviously cant speak this as fact, but I think the wear n tear on fighters brains comes just as much from sparring as it does from the fights.

    I think if you were able to look back into some of these guys training camps, I think you would find they probably sparred shitloads and participated in needless gym wars. And its hard to say how many of them sparred while having concussions from the day before, ect, ect.

    I think that, and I hate to say it but drug n alchohal use in some of their cases, help contribute to their condition.

    But I think the biggest thing, besides late in the career beatings, is the hard sparring they have done and the massive amounts of it.
     
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    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It kills me to see warriors reduced to this, but at least there are some silver linings in the article. So many cases of athletes with CTE wind up much, much worse. Fortunately more organizations are popping up to help with research and treatment so hopefully we don't get the suicides, depression, and violent deaths that CTE can lead to in the future.

    Terry deserves respect for fighting through it to improve his life, and his daughter deserves massive props for stepping up to the plate like she has. That's a great child, there.
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also, as for the 1 punch knockout vs sparring argument....the fact that we can make a case for both of them for Terry's case is the crucial point. For Norris, the punishment he absorbed wasn't either/or- every angle that can break down a fighter physically, he had going against him.

    Too much sparring? Check.
    Brutal KO losses? Check.
    Hundreds of amateur fights before going pro? Check.
    Stuck around for too long in the pro game? Check.

    No sense arguing which one was the culprit, as they all played a factor.
     
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    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trama is truama dude , If you get hit hard enough to the head to render you un conscious that considered trauma . Once you had one sever enough it becomes much easier to suffer another.
     
  11. thanosone

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    Some people have thicker skulls than others. The Jackson KO did nothing. He landed on Norris' chin. It's when you're getting your head and ears bashed in that ducks your brain up.
     
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    People like Terry Norris and Meldrick Taylor would probably still do it the same way, even with all the advances made by scientific studies. They were old school.

    I'm almost thankful that old school fighters don't really exist anymore.
     
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    Terry is such an underrated fighter. Technique-wise he was almost perfect, just watch that second Simon Brown fight, that was one of the best displays of pure boxing i've seen. He was floating in that ring, perfect footwork - turning Brown around and leaping of the ropes with that left-hook, his defense/head-movement was also superb that night, very few people at Jr. Middleweight would have beaten that Terry Norris.

    Thet problem was, he always loved to brawl, and with the kind of chin he had, it was the worst thing he could do.

    Other than that, he was just almost as good fighter as you can be.
     
  15. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i would believe jacksons KO did as much physical, permanent damage to norris as tua did to ruiz.

    very little.